RE: [CR] Different Campy #1010 dropouts?

From: "Ken Freeman" <>
To: "'Bob Hanson'" <>, <>
Subject: RE: [CR] Different Campy #1010 dropouts?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:30:44 -0400
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I've seen a little hole on the der dropout in some later (~1985 OT) ones, and it is to accommodate the Porta Catena chainholder.

Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA

-----Original Message----- From: [] On Behalf Of Bob Hanson Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:05 AM To: Subject: [CR] Different Campy #1010 dropouts?

I noticed that early Campagnolo 1010 dropouts had a small hole drilled through just above the derailleur hanger. I would assume that this was for direct mounting of a non-Campy derailleur with an upper pivot spring. By catalog #17 (c.1973) this feature was eliminated from the 1010 dropouts.

Curious about this, I just removed the spring stop from the mounting bolt of an early Super LJ derailleur and bolted it directly onto an early '60s frame with this type of Campy dropout. Voila! a perfect fit.

However, this feature dates back to the earliest appearance of these dropouts (so, at least back to 1953) - many years before Simplex's first parallelogram derailleurs.

Does anyone know which derailleurs this originally may have been intended for?

Also, why would this have been eliminated? - Especially, when other brands of superior derailleurs were increasingly incorporating springs with their upper pivot bolts... (or, perhaps I have just answered my own question here).

Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA