Re: [CR]Re: Revival of lugged-steel? Was: 2006 Interbike pics.


Example: Framebuilders:Mario Confente

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Revival of lugged-steel? Was: 2006 Interbike pics.
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <20061003151821.71189.qmail@web52002.mail.yahoo.com>


Listen - many bikes that are highly beloved by members of the CR list were considered trendy cash cows by their manufacturers.

To be honest, I don't care about the motivations of a mass producer, as long as an appealing product is the result. (For a modern, steel frame, you can probably imagine what I would consider appealing.) As for low volume, custom/bespoke frame builders, I think they would continue to exist - and fill a niche - regardless of whether they can use 953 or the ultra lightweight stuff from Tru-Temper.

But your mileage - and opinions - may vary...
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- r cielec wrote:


> Ahoy !

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Merely citing a possible scenario; not necessarily

\r?\n> endorsing it.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Could the production of steel bikes be related to profit

\r?\n> margins? That is: low cost labour, low cost production,

\r?\n> geographic location and "ermerging economies" favours use of

\r?\n> steel ? Cheap to make, trendy cash cow. No sensitivity to

\r?\n> the "soul" of the steel bike so, no KOF desire at all.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Ah, but each and every bike is a good bike. Of course,

\r?\n> Timeline & KOF are the best. Everyone knows this. : )

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Richard Cielec

\r?\n> Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> oroboyz@aol.com wrote:

\r?\n> << Do tell us more about the lugged bikes - is there a

\r?\n> revival of

\r?\n> steel-lugged frames? Are we going to see more KOF bikes in

\r?\n> the style

\r?\n> which fits within the CR (KOF) parameters - especially with

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> introduction of Reynolds 953? Were there any frames built

\r?\n> with 953 at

\r?\n> Interbike? >>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I think that the lugged frame has it's niche... The young

\r?\n> crowd,

\r?\n> seeking alternatives to what they see as a glitzy, yuppy,

\r?\n> elitest

\r?\n> cycling scene, have embraced steel both lugged, filet brazed

\r?\n> and

\r?\n> tigged. This is still a relatively small group but certainly

\r?\n> more than

\r?\n> the babby boomer folks (us) who have appreciated this style

\r?\n> bike all

\r?\n> along. There is no question that vintagesque bikes and bike

\r?\n> components

\r?\n> are having a modest revival.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I did not notice a 953 tubed frame but there very well may

\r?\n> have been

\r?\n> one.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Dale Brown

\r?\n> cycles de ORO, Inc.

\r?\n> 1410 Mill Street

\r?\n> Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA

\r?\n> 336-274-5959

\r?\n> http://www.cyclesdeoro.com

\r?\n> http://www.classicrendezvous.com

\r?\n> Giant, Specialized, Orbea, Felt, Landshark, Pinarello,

\r?\n> Colnago, Townie

\r?\n> and other exotica.

\r?\n> National Bicycle Dealers Association Board member

\r?\n>

\r?\n> -----Original Message-----

\r?\n> From: castell5@sympatico.ca

\r?\n> To: oroboyz@aol.com

\r?\n> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Sent: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 9:07 AM

\r?\n> Subject: Revival of lugged-steel? Was: [CR]2006 Interbike

\r?\n> pics... Many

\r?\n> many!!!

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Hi Dale or other Interbike attendees,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Do tell us more about the lugged bikes - is there a revival

\r?\n> of

\r?\n> steel-lugged frames? Are we going to see more KOF bikes in

\r?\n> the style

\r?\n> which fits within the CR (KOF) parameters - especially with

\r?\n> the

\r?\n> introduction of Reynolds 953? Were there any frames built

\r?\n> with 953 at

\r?\n> Interbike?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Enquiring minds would like to know!! ;^)

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Cheers,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Paul.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Paul B. Williams, MPhil (Wales), PhD (Queen's)

\r?\n> 70 Viscount Ave.,

\r?\n> Ottawa, On, K1Z 7M9

\r?\n> ph: 613-761-3867

\r?\n> e-mail: castell5@sympatico.ca

\r?\n>

\r?\n> ----- Original Message ----- From:

\r?\n> To:

\r?\n> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:21 AM

\r?\n> Subject: [CR]2006 Interbike pics... Many many!!!

\r?\n>

\r?\n> >I have just published a BIG batch of pics, taken by Ryan and

\r?\n> myself

\r?\n> at the >Interbike in Las Vegas a few days ago.

\r?\n> > There's something for everyone!

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Many lugged bikes ...Bruce Gordon (incl. new alluminum

\r?\n> brakes),Phil

\r?\n> Wood > w/Newvex lugs, Masi replica, Pegoretti, Vanilla,

\r?\n> Berthoud,

\r?\n> Nagasawa, > Fondriest, and CR list group pic & more!

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Enjoy!

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/Interbike/2006/show_report.htm

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Dale Brown

\r?\n> > Greensboro, North Carolina USA