Re: [CR]Why do many frame builders use deck of cards images on bikes?

Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Why do many frame builders use deck of cards images on bikes?
To: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <86032971-3BB3-4A58-B86B-BBEE61AF68A7@earthlink.net>
cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Ciocc, which is slang for "Poker Face" in Italian, actually uses all four of the suits:

http://www.raydobbins.com/ciocc/photos/photo14.html

Ray Dobbins Miami Florida USA

Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Don Wilson wrote:
> These patterns show up often in lug windows and some
> use them in their insignias. I see hearts frequently
> in lug windows. Clubs less so. And Confente liked
> spades. I don't recall anyone using a diamond, but
> perhaps I missed it. Is there some bicycling tradition
> predisposing the use of these patterns? These patterns
> aren't that stellar aesthetically speaking. What
> gives?
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA USA

=================================================================== Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp Filename=classicrendezvous.10211.0025.eml From: Chuck Schmidt Subject: Re: [CR]history of playing card suits? Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:28:33 -0700

Grant McLean wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> Trivia time!
>
> Does anyone know the origin of using the "playing card" suit on bicycles?
> Who went first? Did it just end up by chance that:
>
> Confente - Spade
> De Rosa - Heart
> Colnago - Club
> Pogliaghi - Diamond

Maybe it has its origins with Fausto's '49 Bianchi Pista.

"Pokerissmo: no matter how you deal the cards, Bianchi and Coppi are victorious."

This is the earliest use of the card suits on a frame that I have seen.

Chuck Schmidt SoPas, SoCal http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, T-shirts and Campaganolo & Mavic Timelines)

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Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp Filename=classicrendezvous.10308.0735.eml Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:54:42 -0700 From: Chuck Schmidt Subject: Re: [CR]Origin of playing card motifs
>From the CR archives:

1949 and Bianchi?

Maybe the playing card motif has its origins with Fausto Coppi's 1949 Bianchi Pista.

Bianchi ad campaign copy: "Pokerissmo: no matter how you deal the cards, Bianchi and Coppi are victorious."

This is the earliest use of the card suits on a frame that I have seen.

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, T-shirts and Campagnolo & Mavic Timelines)

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Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, Southern California
United States of America
http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)