Sidenote, Chuck: The German Olympic Team used them, but the fellow who got
them made and sent to Germany was Hugo Rickert of Dortmund, who was
supplying the German team with bikes and equipment, being the foremost
builder in Germany of his day.
His was the idea / suggestion to Campagnolo to make the HiLo originally.
They had a 500 hubset minimum order, but he got them to make only 300 for
the first run, as he was a small KOF kinda guy and couldn't quite swing so
many pairs.
It didn't hurt that he was well acquainted with the German distributing
agent who just happened to be married to one of Campagnolo's nieces. A kind
word from friends in high places.
I really don't know the origen of the hub with the rounded end by the
thread.
A single freewheel coud be screwed onto a track hub without a problem of
thread stripping as the chainline was fairly straight.
But we never put on a 5 / 6 cog freewheel on a track hub because that we
knew would strip the thread away because of the chain angle and force. Saw
it in our shop a few times, from upset inexperienced experimenters.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA
> In the past, Campagnolo would make parts to custom order. The the HiLo
> Record rear hub was originally custom-made for the West German Olympic
> Team in 1972, for example. I've also seen large flange track hubs with
> no holes and the flanges closer together for a narrow spaced fork. Your
> hub sounds like another custom ordered item to me.
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, Southern California
> United States of America
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
> Mike Fabian wrote:
>
>> Dear JB,
>>
>> Thanks so much for helping to shed some light on this mystery of mine.
>> I've had this hub for maybe twenty years or so kicking around various
>> boxes of old stuff and finally I am getting some info on it.
>>
>> I removed the locknuts on mine but there is no date. The axle is a quick
>> release one and I'm pretty sure it is a replacement along with the nuts.
>> The cones and lockwashers (!)have smaller stampings than I am used to
>> seeing. In fact I don't ever recall seeing the lockwashers stamped with
>> anything before.
>>
>> I guess the final question I still wonder about is just why Campy would
>> have made such a beast in the first place ? I was schooled that you can
>> simply run a single freewheel on the cog threading of a fixed hub with
>> no problems. By leaving off the lockring and it's threads you have a
>> much less versatile / practical hub.
>>
>> Again . . . weird,
>>
>> Mike Fabian
>> San Francisco, US
>>
>> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:42:35 -0500
>> From: "John Barron" <jb@velostuf.com>
>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Subject: [CR]RE: Campy Track hub without lockring threads
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>> I have one of these early, no "RECORD" hubs. It has lockrings dated
>> 1958...
>> I doubt that they had BMX back then...
>>
>> John Barron
>> Minneapolis MN
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:33:31 +0100
>> From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>
>> emeneff@earthlink.net wrote:
>>> Dear Listees,
>>>
>>> I have a sort of mystery Campy rear track hub that is looking for an
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>> It is a large flange "no-record" early track type hub but it has no
>>> stepped-down reverse threaded provision for a lockring. Weird. At
>>> first I thought perhaps someone might have stripped the lockring
>>> thread and had it removed by a machinist. But the rounded profile of
>>> the hub shell makes me question that. There doesn't seem like there
>>> was any stepped-down section at all to begin with. The flange spacing
>>> definitely is wider than that of a regular road hub. I have some
>>> photos posted on the Wool Jersey Gallery :
>>>
>>> http://www.wooljersey.com/
>>> jpg.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Its probably for a single freewheel as used on BMX...
>>
>> Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
>>> Has anyone seen or heard of something like this ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike Fabian
>>> San Francisco, CA USA