Re: [CR]Fwd: Help confirming a possible Raleigh Team Pro


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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:08:23 +0100
Subject: Re: [CR]Fwd: Help confirming a possible Raleigh Team Pro
From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <20061014230120.62709.qmail@web82213.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Almost certainly with a Team Pro because Raleigh would not have used metric 531 tubing. The weight of the bare frame will also be an indication - depending on size it should weigh around about 3.7lb - a standard 531 frame will weigh 4.2lb or so. But 531SL or 531 Pro will be lighter, however Raleigh would not have used metric sizes of this tubing even if it was available...

I am not exactly certain when the Imperial size 753 tubing was introduced but I suspect 1980/1 - it could have been a little later but not earlier.

The frame number should give a fairly clear guide as to date.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Fwd: Help confirming a possible Raleigh Team Pro
>
> VOILA!!! Thanks Hilary. I got out my digital calipers and measured the
> toptube and seattube of the Team Pro versus a 1969 Raleigh Pro and a 1974
> Raleigh Competition, both of which can safely be assumed to be English gauge
> 531. Metric tubing should have a 0.6 mm larger toptube and 0.6 smaller
> seattube. Measuring to tenths of a mm is tricky, but the Team Pro toptube is
> indeed about half a mm larger and its seattube about half a mm smaller.
>
> So let me ask the converse. Does metric gauge tubing and a 26.8 seattube
> definitively indicate 753?
>
> Also, does metric tubing help date the frame?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, Republic of Texas.
>
>
> Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Not if it is quite an early one built from Reynolds 753 metric tubing -
> these take 26.8 or 27.0mm. The one I picked up yesterday that had been
> Ebay.co.uk I think dates from 1978 or so and has a 27.0mm pin. I am not
> quite certain when Reynolds started manufacturing Imperial sized 753 tubing
> - I should think it was around 1980/1. Imperial sized tubing 753 should
> really be 27.4 but may be 27.2 on some frames.
>
> Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
>
>> From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos
>> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:19:01 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: [CR]Fwd: Help confirming a possible Raleigh Team Pro
>>
>>
>> Someone mentioned that the 753 Team Pros should have a 27.4 post. I find that
>> mine has a 26.8. Does this definitively rule out 753? If so, is it likely
>> 531c or just plain 531?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Moos
>> Big Spring, TX, Republica de Tejas