Re: [CR]Light Saddles Before 1982 ??

Example: Racing:Jacques Boyer

Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:14:27 -0400
From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Light Saddles Before 1982 ??
In-reply-to: <BAY109-F26AEE82D069295DA5ACB389C080@phx.gbl>
To: "R.S. Broderick" <>

Like Robert I liked and still like the 3TTT with alloy rails. It is made of a particularly rigid and tough brand of nylon called Rilsan. It is not quite shaped like a Unicanitor (probably narrower in general) and if you don't like the shape you are doomed. The rigidity allows judicious drilling of the shell to further lower the weight. Drill out the areas where you need resiliency and you might save another 1/2 ounce.

Robert probably liked it because the Rilsan was supposed to have less rigidity increase at low temperature according to at least one ski boot manufacturer. A natural for ND.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ

R.S. Broderick wrote:
> Don,
> My personal choice of compromise for a reasonably lightweight yet
> comfortable saddle suitable for racing use circa mid 1970's through
> early 1980's was the 3ttt #30 Superleggero with alloy rails that
> tipped the scales at 290 grams officially (...although it could
> sometimes be found weighing a tad less if your LBS was willing to let
> you individually weigh their various stock on hand - for me, it helped
> to have worked part time there during the summer months). Basically,
> this saddle is lightly padded and remarkably similar to a Cinelli
> Unicanitor in its profile. So, if the Cinelli works well for you and
> you are not too heavy yourself ( of my riding buddys back in the
> day was 6' 6" and 210 pounds and he rode the heck out of one of these
> alloy railed saddles without incident), then the 3ttt is likely to
> suit you as well.
> By the way, if anyone out there happens to be sitting on (...yes, pun
> intended) one of these very same 3ttt Superleggero saddles in REAL
> nice used, or better yet NOS, condition, PLEASE contact me directly
> and off list as I would LOVE to find one in better shape than that
> which I have on hand so that I may use it in conjunction with my never
> ending Gitane TdF retro-racer restoration project.
> Robert "pragmatic weight weenie" Broderick
> ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota
> Sioux Falls, USA
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> From: Donald Gillies <>
>> To:
>> Subject: [CR]Light Saddles Before 1982 ??
>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
>> 1. I have a very light saddle that came on an ALAN frame. It is
>> labeled SYSTEME and i wondered if this was in the timeline, and
>> if anyone could tell me something about these saddles ??
>> 2. Who made the lightest saddles before 1982 ( name and model ), and
>> if so, were they worth riding or just a pain in the you-know-where.
>> For example, Cinelli uncovered plastic saddles were pretty light, but
>> i believe that these were too uncomfortable for all but track racing ...
>> Thanx in advance,
>> - Don Gillies
>> San Diego, CA, USA