re: [CR] Lyotard Berthet repair: replacement axles from other Lyotards.

(Example: Framebuilders:Pino Morroni)

Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:08:03 -0500
From: "Harvey M Sachs" <sachshm@cox.net>
To: theonetrueBob@webtv.net, carb7008@cs.com, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: re: [CR] Lyotard Berthet repair: replacement axles from other Lyotards.


Thank you Bob Hanson for determining the models whose spindles are considered interchangeable with the Berthet pedal, I'd never looked at that.

Just one sour note, though: As I've written previously, I've run into substantial problems getting Berthet pedals to interchange spindles with each other. It's not just the metric/other pedal threading, but fairly significant variation in spindle length. I've run into cases in which I would have had to grind off one spindle to mate with one body, and the leftover spindle was too short to assemble in the leftover body. The Berthet is a great design, and will look great as a conversation piece hanging on a wall. Put on the bike for display, but consider riding on less likely to self-destruct pedals. I really think they were meant to be discarded rather than maintained, having had too many with loose bodies.

but, each to his own! harvey sachs mcLean va

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== A few weeks ago Jack Romans inquired about replacement axles. There was considerable discussion and much doubt whether any others were interchangeable with the Model 23.

I just came across some information which clarifies that there were in fact 9 different spindles used by Lyotard (c.1970). The model 23 axle would be interchangeable with ONLY:

Models 45 / 45CA / 45 TER

Once again, finding one now, in good condition, without removing it from a perfectly good "donor" pedal would be unlikely. But, since inquiring minds may always want to know... at least we now have an answer in the archives.

Bob Hanson,
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA