[CR]New Guy on the block....

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:45:52 -0800 (PST)
From: "Larry Myers" <curmudgeon1957@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOOD4lJ7tUUQD000035f2@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]New Guy on the block....

Greetings! My name is Larry Myers, and I hail from Portland, Oregon. I've been a serious bike geek since 1971, when I acquired a Raphael Geminiani road bike at a yard sale, and got 3rd place on it a few days later in my first race. I've owned many, many bikes since then, and have spent a large part of my life working in the bike buisness. I am currently working for the Community Cycling Center, the largest non-profit bike shop in the country. In the course of my work I encounter many interesting vintage bikes & parts, so I am basically in bike-nerd heaven! I currently own 4 vintage road bikes: a Medici Gran Tourismo, an Exxon Graftek (my favorite), a 1969 Raleigh Gran Sports, and a late-60's (I think) VeloSolex road bike. The VeloSolex is a bit of mystery to me...I have never seen one like it. It has a Reynolds & Durifort frame w/ BCM lugs, and has a Campy Gran Sport drive train (all chrome-plated, not alloy) w/ T.A. Cyclotouriste double crankset (40/52), Brooks B15 saddle on a Simplex post, and Universal sidepull brakes. It came w/ Gnutti Professional hubs on Weinmann tubular rims. It is a very pretty, very French bike- chrome fork, nice paint & lugwork. If anyone out there can tell me anything about it's history, I would be in their debt! Also, if anybody out there knows Mark G. Ritz, I would appreciate it if you would forward my contact information to him- we lost track of one another years ago, and I owe him a debt that I would like to make good on. I look forward to corresponding with all of you!CR

Today's Topics:

1. Re: What bike be dis? 2. RE: $7k Hetchins - Now: Original? (Jan Heine) 3. New to list, about me, etc. (Jimmy Livengood) 4. Re: Bruce Gordon ya gotta love him 5. Bruce Gordon BLT Available (Nick Zatezalo)

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:46:08 -0500 From: loudeeter@aol.com To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]What bike be dis? Message-ID: <8C8D0ABBD848B00-FDC-4BC6@MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <39871.12.2.142.7.1162920796.squirrel@webmail.mtco.com> References: <39871.12.2.142.7.1162920796.squirrel@webmail.mtco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1

Kim, looks Italian, but can you confirm the threading in the bb? I'll take your word for the F in the seatlug. My brain couldn't unravel it. The star looks a lot like ther Guerciotti star, but the F eliminates that. I have over 75 frame makes in the Used Bike Buyers Guide that start with an F. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL

-----Original Message----- From: kurtsj@mtco.com To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:33 PM Subject: [CR]What bike be dis?

From: "kim klakow"

"I'm trying to figure out what maker this is. Star in fork, "F" in bb and in seat lug. Any suggestions?

http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Kims-bikes/fframe/

Thanks, kim"

hi Kim,

It looks a lot like the star in my Olmo's fork crown. The crown and chroming look familiar too, as do the cutouts in the lugs. Not sure about the BB cutouts though.

fwiw, my Olmo is an '82. Styles vary, but the star has been Olmo's logo for quite a while.

Steve Kurt Peoria, IL USA

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:58:11 -0800 From: Jan Heine To: ebrooks@eriwine.com, "'Peter Naiman'" , "'kim klakow'" , "'Mark Bulgier'" , , Subject: RE: [CR]$7k Hetchins - Now: Original? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2

At 7:26 AM -0600 11/7/06, Edward Brooks wrote:
>Perhaps with some dialogue from any interested potential purchasers the
>seller might be convinced to provide greater image and description
>detail as

The bike is described to have all-original 1964 components, but the aluminum Simplex long-cage deraileurs post-date that by a decade or so.

Coincidentally, if anybody has a long-cage Simplex SLJ derailleur for sale (straight or dropped parallelogram), I am very interested... Must say "SLJ" in the little stampings, not "SX" or other words...

Contact me off list. (No, I won't pay $ 5000 for a Hetchins to get the derailleur!) -- Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 140 Lakeside Ave #C Seattle WA 98122 http://www.bikequarterly.com ------------------------------

Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:29:05 -0600 From: "Jimmy Livengood" To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]New to list, about me, etc. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3

Jimmy Livengood Seattle, WA

Just getting into classic bikes. I'm finding out it's a good thing I have a basement.

Current bikes: 2004 Specialized Enduro Sworks frame, XT dual controls, blah...but that's not what this list is about

197? Benotto 850 Paris-Roubaix Shimano 600 (arabesque -EX?).

1984 Trek 760 Frame and fork only as it sits now, had it built as modern 9-speed, rode it everywhere, my only really nice steel (Reynolds 531c) bike, buttery smooth and quite light.

2007 Lemond Poprad. Altered a fair bit, my commuter. If you live in Seattle, you'll know it's me by the red/white Lemond frame with white Bluemels fenders. I have it set up as a compact 50/36 with 11-28 9-speed cassette, which is damn near perfect for my riding.

? Clean Motobecane lugged mixte. This is where the white fenders above came from.

198? Raleigh Supercourse "Racing USA" Bent frame and fork (I was fine other than pride). Frame is now straight/true, not sure if I will/should rebuild or not.

Previous bikes: 1970 Raleigh Superbe, dyno hub, lights, matching fenders, rack, locking fork, great around-town machine which I should have never sold. 2003 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR 2000 Klein Attitude. Another bike I should not have sold. 2001 Cannondale XS800. 1996 GT STS 1500DS 1986 GT Performer. Should've kept. 1992 GT Vertigo Various bikes assembled from garage-sale bits by my father.

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:32:37 +0000 From: hersefan@comcast.net To: Steve Leitgen , Cantiflex@aol.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Bruce Gordon ya gotta love him Message-ID: <110720061932.18121.4550DF550006CE96000046C92200760180020E000A9C9D0A08@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 4

I'm glad Steve sort of came around - but Steve and I hate to say many builders themselves are still missing the point - the one to two pounds added in weight by using a steel frame is nearly TRIVIAL to the bikes performance as used by the majority of riders.

Comfort which equals less fatigue, and rolling resistance of tires are way more important to a bikes performance. And guess what - Steel bikes can be designed to meet these objectives better than most wonder material bikes on the market.

So the opinion that for serious unloaded riding a light wonder bike makes sense for most folks is wrong in many if not most cases. The bottom line is that if a rider is doing 40-60 mile rides plus the occasional century, a steel bike that accomodates 25 or 28mm tires AND which is especially comfortable may in fact be the bike that enables its rider to go faster.

Anyone interested in these issues should be subscribing to Jan Hein's Bicycle Quarterly. He actually does the MATH - yes, real analytics to get to the core of these issues.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Steve Leitgen"


> Group;
> A ways back Bruce made a few comments on how we as cyclists should
> support the custom framebuilders etc. I was a bit insulted. My
> thoughts were along the lines of, "Why should I pay huge cash for
> what appears to be an overweight POS?"
>
> So before I fired off a flame I went to his website. There he
> explains in detail the very reasons why a you might want a heavy
> steel custom bike.
>
> If you want to do unsupported cyclotouring, in effect full loaded
> biking, there is precious little (to nothing) on the market that
> would be usable. You can't take your carbon or aluminum toy and load
> it with 60 lbs. of gear and hope it survives. It won't.
>
> I would encourage any who are thinking of loaded touring to go to
> Bruce's website and read it.
>
> Bruce, you were right. I salute you!
>
> Steve (don't know Bruce, not selling anything, just educated) Leitgen
> LA Crosse, WI USA
> _______________________________________________

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:56:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Nick Zatezalo To: CR List Subject: [CR]Bruce Gordon BLT Available Message-ID: <32149221.1162929372779.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Reply-To: Nick Zatezalo Message: 5

Check it out here:

http://www.serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22785

No relation to seller.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Georgia, US

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