Re: [CR]New one to me: Ken Ryall frame

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Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 09:06:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "Peter Jourdain" <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]New one to me: Ken Ryall frame
To: Joe King <joeking@fastmail.fm>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <1163176353.1809.275512254@webmail.messagingengine.com>


Hi, Joe---

Thanks so much for the info. Fascinating stuff, this is. I had almost mentioned Claud Butler, but then I wondered if I'd ever seen any CB-styled bilaminated frames bearing shop names. None came readily to mind, but my recollections are far from authoratative. DID Claud build bilams for shops or only "fully brazed-up" (lugged) frames?

Cheers,

Peter Jourdain
Whitewater, Wisconsin US of A


--- Joe King wrote:


>
> The big frame suppliers to the trade were as you
> said Holdsworths, Claud
> Butler's, Ephgraves and Stoke Newington Engineering.
> The last was
> formerly known as Metropolitan Machinists. These
> were working during
> the period of 1945 to late 60's.
> Les Ephgrave built for Rory O'Brien, George Brooks,
> Don Farrell, Algurn
> and some Purves when he was to busy. He used these
> shops frame numbering
> system.
> You also had one man band lightweight shops that
> built frames for the
> trade and the lone artisans working out of sheds,
> lock ups, garages and
> tiny workshops etc. Jack Jones, Jimmy Long, Vic
> Lyons, Les Ephgrave,
> Ted Woodhall and Stuart Purves are good examples.
> Some started small and
> expanded like Les.
> I attended a 40+ (More like 70+) reunion the other
> week and this subject
> who built what for whom came up over a pint. It was
> said by more than a
> few there that if the lightweight shop was an agent
> for a famous maker
> it was a dead certainty that these were making the
> shop branded frames,
> George Brooks first used Clauds and then Ephgraves.
> Croeso Cymru Joe King Nr. Maenaddwyn Ynys Mon Wales
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