Re: [CR]Urago an Italian team?

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From: "Joe King" <joeking@fastmail.fm>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Urago an Italian team?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:54:48 +0000


Try this link and all will be revealed: Oh ye of little faith. http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wielersite/zoekploegvrij2.php Best wishes Joe.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:34:54 -0500, "The Maaslands" <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> said:
> Joe wrote "Urago was originally an Italian team in 1935. They were
> either French or Italian from 1935 to 1961 in their various forms:
> Urago, Urago-Dunlop, Urago-D'Allesasndro, Urago-Simplex. Perhaps this is
  
> where the confusion has crept in but the frames were French and made in
  
> Nice. Your very own Joseph Magnani (U.S.A.) rode for them in 37 and the
  
> record books show it was an Italian team then."
>
> I was quite puzzled by this statement and looked through all of my
> Italian sources and could not find any mention of Urago as being an
> Italian team. Perhaps Joe would like to expand on this and provide the
> sources of such information. In all my French books, it also says that
> Urago was only ever a French manufacturer and team, besides which, if
> one were to study the races that the Urago team participated in, you
> would see that they were overwhelmingly in France or just over the
> border into the neighbouring parts of Italy and/or Switzerland. It
> simply doesn't make sense to me. More than likely, this is one of the
> many cases where riders were licensed to more than one team. This was
> actually not uncommon well into the 50's, with riders participating in
> races under one team in one country or race and under another team and
> jersey in others. I believe two of the most notorious for riding for
> multiple teams wer the two Swiss superstars Ferdi Kubler and Hugo
> Koblet. Kubler rode for at least two teams concurrently in every season
  
> from 1948 until 1956, Koblet for 10 of his 12 years as a pro. This was
> furthermore not a purely Swiss thing as even riders of the stature of
> Bartali and Bobet, from major cycling markets, rode for multiple teams
> (Bartali rode concurrently for Tebag and Legnano in 1946, Bobet for more
  
> than one team in 5 seasons, including the combination of three teams in
  
> 1952: Stella-Hutchnson in France, Tebag in Switzerland and Bottecchia in
  
> Italy).
>
> Speaking of Magnani, here is a great blurb about him:
> http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7566.0.html
>
> I would expect that listmember Ted Ernst would have known Magnani and
> can perhaps add something to the background.
>
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> USA