Re: [CR]RRA fixed side cup removal

(Example: Component Manufacturers:Ideale)

From: <Hughethornton@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:35:48 EST
Subject: Re: [CR]RRA fixed side cup removal
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


I think Peter Brown is possibly confusing the standard Raleigh RH BB cup an d the special one fitted to the RRA, where no wrench known to man will shift it (except there must have been a special factory tool that would do the jo b). However, the nut and bolt method he proposes has invariably worked for me with other BBs -- you just nee to be sure that you can apply it to the RRA cup with its strange conical face without doing any damage to the outside or th e bearing surfaces. My guess is that it will work.

Hugh Thornton Cheshire, England

In a message dated 16/11/2006 06:50:40 GMT Standard Time, peterg.brown@ntlworld.com writes:

Hello Griff

The RRA fixed side cup does have threads, but the last little bit of the cup is without thread, to stop it going any further in, so it then appears to be threadless. The 2 flats are very shallow, and need a keen edge spanner to grip on them. They are also very brittle and easily crack off, so be careful. It you are unable to get a grip with your spanner try using a ¾\u201d nut and bolt and some washers through the cup to clamp the spanner in position. If that fails, use the nut and bolt with some packing washers to sandwich the flat of the cup. As you tighten the grip of the nut and bolt it will frequently remove the cup. If that doesn\u2019t work, and you a re unable to apply any heat to help, don\u2019t bother!

Peter Brown, Lincolnshire, England

........had a customer call into the shop today with an enquiry about his

newly acquired Raleigh Record Ace believed to be from the early 50's and still

equipped with its original componentry, it appears that when he tried to

dismantle the bottom bracket the right hand fixed cup was nothing like he had

come across before..........protruding from the frame approx. 1/8th" but no

raised flange with the traditional flats on either side just two small

indentations on opposite sides to each other, the question is neither of us have any

idea how to remove the cup as it doesn't appear to have a thread to unscrew so

can any of you more enlightened Raleigh enthusiasts offer any advice? regards Griff King-Spooner (London UK)