Re: FW: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:01:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Raymond Dobbins <>
Subject: Re: FW: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore
To: JEFFERY Pyzyk <>,
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F139E0F36864FFA4AD983B3D5E80@phx.gbl>

Slightly better link:

Ray Dobbins Miami FL USA

JEFFERY Pyzyk <> wrote:

Thanks for uploading the photos Ray. Here is the link to the ratty late 60's early 70's SC frame, my restored approximately 1967 SC for comparison purposes, and my Falerio Masi (just for fun).

Jeff Pyzyk Milwaukee, WI

>From: Raymond Dobbins
>To: JEFFERY Pyzyk ,
>Subject: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore
>Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:56:22 -0800 (PST)
>Hi Jeff,
> There are ratty bikes, and there are ratty bikes with appeal. Why don't
>you link us to a couple of pics of your Cinelli so we can give you our
>specific opinions about your bike, rather than just our general opinions on
>the subject of whether to restore or not. It'll be more fun for us and
>more useful to you - a win-win situation!
> Go ahead, get the camera, we'll wait :)
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami Fla USA
>JEFFERY Pyzyk wrote:
> This topic has probably been hashed around on the list more than Blond
>Lebanese in Madison during the late '60's. However, given some of the
>recent E-bay prices for unrestored "rats", I think the topic can safely be
>I've got a late 60's/early 70's Cinelli SC with original decals and what's
>left of the original silver paint. It is an early drilled lug frame with
>the old-style long campy dropouts, and also still has the fender eyelets.
>It is ratty as hell. "Patina" is not a word that comes to mind. The paint
>worn through all over the place with some pitting of chrome in the usual
>areas under the lugs. Looking at it, you would say that it obviously needs
>to be stripped, re-chromed, and re-painted.
>However, it is authentic! Decals and color bands, lettering, and the
>Columbus SL decals are honest and original.
>After seeing what one old battle worn Cinelli recently sold for on E-bay, I
>have some doubts that a restored bike would be any more valuable than a
>ratty original one. Like most of you, I'm in this for love and not for
>money, so the decision is not really based on economics.
>My personal preference is for my bikes to look as near to new as possible.
>It's probably from some Freudian anal retentive stage I never got through
>something, I don't know. However, in this case, I have some trepidation
>about restoration.
>Jeff Pyzyk
>Milwaukee, WI
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