Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore

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From: "ternst" <>
To: "Michael Schmidt" <>, "JEFFERY Pyzyk" <>, <>, <>
References: <>
Subject: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:30:03 -0800

Jeff: Rebuild, Si. Repaint/restore, No, Non, Nein, Nyet. Clean 'em up, assemble, ride, and enjoy. Anymore than that, and the entire wrath of the CR List will come down upon you, yea to the third and fourth generation. We'll thrust you through the the gantlet, prod you along with sharp rusty spokes, and thrash you with old gutta and shellac laden sew-ups! For starters. That's a great bike, would that all our used machines be that clean and
Treasure and enjoy!
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Schmidt

<>; <> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore

>I would NOT restore it. Leave it be
> Mike Schmidt
> Stirling, NJ
> On 11/17/06 11:57 AM, "JEFFERY Pyzyk" <>
> wrote:
>> Thanks for uploading the photos Ray. Here is the link to the ratty late
>> 60's early 70's SC frame, my restored approximately 1967 SC for
>> comparison
>> purposes, and my Falerio Masi (just for fun).
>> Jeff Pyzyk
>> Milwaukee, WI
>>> From: Raymond Dobbins <>
>>> To: JEFFERY Pyzyk <>,
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]To Restore or Not to Restore
>>> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:56:22 -0800 (PST)
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> There are ratty bikes, and there are ratty bikes with appeal. Why
>>> don't
>>> you link us to a couple of pics of your Cinelli so we can give you our
>>> specific opinions about your bike, rather than just our general opinions
>>> on
>>> the subject of whether to restore or not. It'll be more fun for us and
>>> more useful to you - a win-win situation!
>>> Go ahead, get the camera, we'll wait :)
>>> Ray Dobbins
>>> Miami Fla USA
>>> JEFFERY Pyzyk <> wrote:
>>> This topic has probably been hashed around on the list more than Blond
>>> Lebanese in Madison during the late '60's. However, given some of the
>>> recent E-bay prices for unrestored "rats", I think the topic can safely
>>> be
>>> revisited.
>>> I've got a late 60's/early 70's Cinelli SC with original decals and
>>> what's
>>> left of the original silver paint. It is an early drilled lug frame with
>>> the old-style long campy dropouts, and also still has the fender
>>> eyelets.
>>> It is ratty as hell. "Patina" is not a word that comes to mind. The
>>> paint
>>> is
>>> worn through all over the place with some pitting of chrome in the usual
>>> areas under the lugs. Looking at it, you would say that it obviously
>>> needs
>>> to be stripped, re-chromed, and re-painted.
>>> However, it is authentic! Decals and color bands, lettering, and the
>>> Columbus SL decals are honest and original.
>>> After seeing what one old battle worn Cinelli recently sold for on
>>> E-bay, I
>>> have some doubts that a restored bike would be any more valuable than a
>>> ratty original one. Like most of you, I'm in this for love and not for
>>> money, so the decision is not really based on economics.
>>> My personal preference is for my bikes to look as near to new as
>>> possible.
>>> It's probably from some Freudian anal retentive stage I never got
>>> through
>>> or
>>> something, I don't know. However, in this case, I have some trepidation
>>> about restoration.
>>> Jeff Pyzyk
>>> Milwaukee, WI
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