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Subject: Re: [CR]Simpson on a Moulton
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:41:21 -0500
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Ray,

Try the links below and scroll to the bottom of the the webpage of that

nefarious fellow, Tony Hadland.

By the way that bike is no shopper but almost all of the others of the

time were. Completely different now.

Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:27:32 +0000 From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com> Come on guys, prove me wrong and Joe right, somebody must be able to produce a picture of Tom on that bloody shopping bike! Ray Green, Brighton, England

http://www.hadland.me.uk/page3.html

http://www.hadland.me.uk/hawk2.gif

http://www.alexmoulton.co.uk/frames.asp?id=bikes&range=ns

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1. (CR) Mavic dropouts on a Kvale (jimmy katynski) 2. Wanted: 24 hole rear Campagnolo hub (The Maaslands) 3. Ebay outing, Bringheli fixed cup bb tool (jimmy katynski) 4. Cinelli model clarifiaction and seatposts (JEFFERY Pyzyk) 5. 2007 BROOKS Limited Edition Swallow (Angel Garcia) 6. Re: Mavic dropouts on a Kvale (Fred Rafael Rednor) 7. RE: Cinelli seatpost needed (Mark Ritz) 8. RE: "Mavic" dropouts on Strawberry (Mark Ritz) 9. Re: Garlatti- Cinelli Connection. (dave martinez) 10. Simpson on a Moulton 11. Re: Good season to ebay vintage bikes? --ride-ready vs. fixer-uppers (Marc St. Martin) 12. Anyone Selling FB Rear High Flange Hub and/or Ideor Asso Head Badge?? (billungardesign@juno.com) 13. Lug Cutting Video (devotion finesse) 14. Re: e-bay outing- Scot? (George Allen) 15. RE: Simpson on a Moulton (Tony Colegrave) 16. Ebay scammer? (David Bean) 17. Super Record Cradle parts needed (Mark Buswell|SisuHome) 18. Re: Ebay scammer? (Thomas Adams)

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: jimmy katynski <jimmycue@yahoo.com> To: cr list <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR](CR) Mavic dropouts on a Kvale Message-ID: <504781.41779.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 1

Yes they do sound like mavic dropouts and if you want to see them on a Kvale frame i had got to this link on wool jersey for a picture of the Kvale. http://209.190.31.210/gallery/Jimmy_Katynski/kvale-1983/ Chris_Kvale_1983_008.jpg.html

Jimmy Katynski 31543 Edgeworth Dr Madison Heights Mi 48071 248-396-3465

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:04:02 -0500 From: "The Maaslands" <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> To: "CR" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Wanted: 24 hole rear Campagnolo hub Message-ID: <028301c71328$5fe12a40$0200a8c0@HPLAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2

I was wondering whether anybody has a surplus 24 hole Campagnolo Record rear hub? It is needed to complete a project that I have. I can trade for it or pay cash outright.

Steven Maasland Moorestown, NJ USA

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:05:10 -0800 (PST) From: jimmy katynski <jimmycue@yahoo.com> To: cr list <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Ebay outing, Bringheli fixed cup bb tool Message-ID: <20061128200510.35534.qmail@web35507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 3

Here is the last of the Bringheli heavyduty fixed cup bb removal tools i had made this year. It fits campy and others 36mm fixed cups. Free CONUS shipping for cr list members on auction item. Link to auction is, http://ebay.com/<blah>

-36mm_W0QQitemZ320054560592QQihZ011QQcategoryZ27953QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd

Z1QQcmdZViewItem Good luck Jimmy K

Jimmy Katynski 31543 Edgeworth Dr Madison Heights Mi 48071 248-396-3465

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:11:24 -0600 From: "JEFFERY Pyzyk" <appraisalresourcegroup@msn.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Cinelli model clarifiaction and seatposts Message-ID: <BAY134-F3D551F0F910FC300C277ED5E50@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4

I've got an '84 Cinelli SC that takes a 27.2 seat post. No holes in the lugs. Also a nice riding bike.

Jeff Pyzyk Milwaukee, WI

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:23:37 -0500 From: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@gmail.com> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]2007 BROOKS Limited Edition Swallow Message-ID: <70e14d4c0611281223l3626d275s1f6f9ce2275a28e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5

Just returned from a visit to a local bike shop. Learned that there will be a 2007 Limited Edition Swallow (like the 2005 with the sewn sides). If

I understood correctly the saddle can be reserved in advance. Best to contact your favorite BROOKS dealer for details.

Apologies if info already posted.

Angel Garcia Verona, Italy

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:31:16 -0800 (PST) From: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: Mavic dropouts on a Kvale Message-ID: <232984.76562.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <504781.41779.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 6

Notice that these are marked as Milremo, which I believe was Ron Kitching's house brand. So it would seem that David Feldman's message - i.e. that they were made by Satri (?) for both Mavic and Ron Kit - was on the right track.
       Cheers,
       Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- jimmy katynski wrote:


> Yes they do sound like mavic dropouts and if you want
> to see them on a Kvale frame i had got to this link on
> wool jersey for a picture of the Kvale.
> http://209.190.31.210/gallery/Jimmy_Katynski/kvale-1983/ Chris_Kvale_1983_008.jpg.html
>
> Jimmy Katynski
> 31543 Edgeworth Dr
> Madison Heights Mi 48071
> 248-396-3465
>
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:34:48 -0800 From: "Mark Ritz" <ritzmon@sbcglobal.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]RE: Cinelli seatpost needed Message-ID: <000001c7132c$a60da7b0$6a01a8c0@D4Q1RPB1> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOOD1WpqgylxN00001b0e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7

Hi folks,

Sorry to take up bandwidth, but if the person looking for the 26.2 post hasn't found one, I believe I have one at home. It'll be a good fit,

both size and patina-wise for the project.

Cheers, Mark Ritz Chilly Arcata, CA

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:38:53 -0800 From: "Mark Ritz" <ritzmon@sbcglobal.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]RE: "Mavic" dropouts on Strawberry Message-ID: <000101c7132d$3823e100$6a01a8c0@D4Q1RPB1> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODPwoZfAFvg00001b37@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8

Hi there,

I built a frame with those dropouts sometime in the early '90's. They

were branded Milremo, which jives with David Feldman's observation that they

were distributed by Ron Kitching. I believe Satri is correct.

Cheers, Mark Ritz Chilly Arcata, CA

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:49:49 -0800 (PST) From: dave martinez <dmart84815@yahoo.com> To: Rob Williams <rwynw@comcast.net> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Garlatti- Cinelli Connection. Message-ID: <17937.41184.qm@web33214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <001601c7130c$71c0bb20$6400a8c0@treeinspector> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 9

Hello Rob,

Back in the 50s and 60s Cinelli contracted out with Garlatti to build

the Mod Riviera. It was concieved as a low cost casual riding Cinelli.

Its very different than any other Cinelli from that era.

Regards, Dave Martinez Fremont Ca US of A

Rob Williams <rwynw@comcast.net> wrote: I've been offered a bike in a box, time capsule. The frame bears the name Garlatti and is apparently Campy equiped, I can find no information. Bike boom, low end? Anyone have thoughts on this Italian maker from the 70's. Thanks Rob Williams Snowed in Seattle

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:27:32 +0000 From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Simpson on a Moulton Message-ID: <20061128212720.HGDX29112.aamtaout04- winn.ispmail.ntl.com@smtp.ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10

Come on guys, prove me wrong and Joe right, somebody must be able to produce a picture of Tom on that bloody shopping bike! Ray Green, Brighton, England

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 13:30:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net> To: Jeff Potter <jeff@outyourbackdoor.com>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Good season to ebay vintage bikes? --ride-ready vs. fixer-uppers Message-ID: <28012397.1164749445999.JavaMail.root@elwamui- huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Reply-To: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net> Message: 11

Hi Jeff,

Are you offering these bikes to the list? If so, what are the prices?

Regards,

Marc St. Martin Livermore, CA

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> From: Jeff Potter <jeff@outyourbackdoor.com>
> Sent: Nov 28, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Good season to ebay vintage bikes? --ride-ready vs.
> fixer-uppers
>
> I have 3 to sell and was thinking next spring, but I also wonder if
> people like to get bikes in the winter if they're going to need work
> and TLC or major repair.
>
> I'm supposing that spring is best for spiffy, ride-ready bikes.
>
> But maybe winter is best for fixer-uppers.
>
> Then again maybe it's largely immaterial, considering the many warm
> climate markets.
>
> I plan to ebay an early-80's 52cm Colnago Mexico (Superbe) and 56cm
> "wine" Somec (Campy SR) that I got at an eviction liquidation---both
> need a good bit of TLC. And maybe my early 70's 64cm red Paramount,
> too---and it's not in the best shape. They're all rideable but need
> some help. The Mexico is worst---it has bad paint blight and should
> get new paint. The Colnago and Somec both have rusty chrome and
> chains, etc.---but I can get them largely tidied up and the chrome is
> coming clean.
>
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:38:52 GMT From: "billungardesign@juno.com" <billungardesign@juno.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Anyone Selling FB Rear High Flange Hub and/or Ideor Asso

Head Badge?? Message-ID: <20061128.133916.713.1252010@webmail13.nyc.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12

Dear all,

New to classic rendezovous - I'm restoring a 1958 Ideor Asso track bike! !

Does anyone happen to have for sale any of the following:

1. FB Rear High Flange Hub? 2. Ideor Asso Head Badge (or trashed Ideor Frame with Head Badge)? 3. Major Taylor style steel track handlebars (from the 50's on back)?

Thanks all,

Bill Ungar

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:53:49 -0500 From: "devotion finesse" <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Lug Cutting Video Message-ID: <BAY122-F2442EE1C92DCB06072E15BF5E50@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13

For your viewing pleasure... A nice 5 minute video showing the process of lug cutting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJhW913Ykc

Matthew Bowne Brooklyn, New York

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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:20:40 From: George Allen <jgallen@lexairinc.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]e-bay outing- Scot? Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016101801.0192a2f0@lexairinc.com> In-Reply-To: <cd1.1f9054.32619067@aol.com> References: <cd1.1f9054.32619067@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 14

The front derailleur looks to be the somewhat unusual one with the built-in cable housing stop. I can't tell from the angle whether it is

the rare early one with the pivot retaining screw.

George Allen

Lexington, Ky

USA

At 08:59 PM 10/13/2006, TODDCIRELLI@aol.com wrote:

_http://ebay.com/<blah> bike_W0QQitemZ140041555703QQihZ004Q

QcategoryZ98084QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_

(http://ebay.com/<blah> bike_W0QQitemZ140041555703QQihZ004QQcategoryZ98084QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Though this looked interesting-

Todd Cirelli

Mechanicsburg, PA

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:07:23 +0000 From: "Tony Colegrave" <tony_colegrave@hotmail.com> To: greenjersey@ntlworld.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: RE: [CR]Simpson on a Moulton Message-ID: <BAY129-F336D12CE682C497CE59056FEE50@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <20061128212720.HGDX29112.aamtaout04- winn.ispmail.ntl.com@smtp.ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 15

Ray, try looking on the front cover of Tony Hadland's first Moulton book, copies of which regularly turn up on eBay. Tony Colegrave, Northiam, U.K.


> From: <greenjersey@ntlworld.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Simpson on a Moulton
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:27:32 +0000
>
> Come on guys, prove me wrong and Joe right, somebody must be able to
> produce a picture of Tom on that bloody shopping bike!
> Ray Green, Brighton, England
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:11:12 -0500 From: "David Bean" <beandk@rcn.com> To: "Classic Rendezvous (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Ebay scammer? Message-ID: <000e01c7133a$1e4cd090$8f7ba8c0@dkbwin2k> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: beandk@rcn.com Message: 16

Check this guy's auctions out...

http://ebay.com/<blah>

David Bean Arlington, MA ------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:01:02 -0800 From: Mark Buswell|SisuHome <mark@sisuhome.com> To: classic rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR] Super Record Cradle parts needed Message-ID: <F358E87D-FDE0-49D3-BF51-414CE40FA390@sisuhome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

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After a shipping mistake with an ebay seller (and many follow-ups without any response) I have been left with an incomplete Super Record seat post cradle.

Does anyone on the list have the parts indicated in this image?: http://tinyurl.com/wfsja

NOS or very good condition only. Off list.

Mark Buswell San Francisco, CA United States ------------------------------

Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:55:52 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com> To: "Classic Rendezvous (E-mail)" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay scammer? Message-ID: <20061128225552.54682.qmail@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000e01c7133a$1e4cd090$8f7ba8c0@dkbwin2k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 18

I think this is a legitimate seller who's ID got hijacked: or else he

stumbled on the motherlode of high flange hubsets. I believe I've bought stuff from him in the past with no complaints. Plus it looks like the legitimate auctions have pictures, and the hijacked ones don't

I hope no one bought the hubs at the super high BIN price without making dead sure this is legit.

Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ

David Bean <beandk@rcn.com> wrote: Check this guy's auctions out...

http://ebay.com/<blah>

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