Thanks Roland. Got some pics of your orange Super?
Ed Granger wrote off-list to say he thought the club cutouts appeared in the fork tangs earlier than I had guessed (76-77), and he pointed out that Eric Elman's excellent timeline concurs with this. So I checked Eric's timeline, because it's never too late to stop guessing and do some actual research :) BTW, the archive link to the timeline post is: http://search.bikelist.org/
Sure enough, Eric's timeline indicates that the club cutouts appeared in the fork tangs as early as 73. So Roland, it looks like you have your orange Super correctly narrowed down to 73/74. And based on the tangs with two holes on my ex blue Super, it looks like it is a 72/73 rather than a 73/74.
Ray Dobbins Miami FL USA
porter411@comcast.net wrote: Nice bike, Ray! My 74/73 orange super is identical in every respect to your blue super except that I have club cutouts in the fork tangs. Go figure, as they say. Roland Porter, Hinsdale, Illinois
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From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
> Angel, the fork tangs on the blue Super had two holes each:
>
> http://www.raydobbins.com/
>
> I associate club cutouts in the fork tangs with slightly later frames, like my
> 78 Mexico Oro:
>
> http://www.raydobbins.com/
>
> I'm not sure how early these club cutouts appeared in fork tangs, but my guess
> is not before 76 or 77.
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
>
>
> Angel Garcia wrote:
> I posted the note below some time ago. If you can access Ray Dobbin's photo
> of the Colnago that I'm referring that would be the ticket. I have the
> receipt of purchase so I kno w it's a 1975 or earlier (Colnago thought it was
> 1973 or 74).
> Angel Garcia
> Verona, IT
>
> "I have a nearly identical Colnago. Mine was purchased in Germany in
> January,
> 1976. Of course, it's not known how long it was in the window at the time of
> purchase but Colnago analyzed photos I sent them and they thought it was a
> 1973 or 1974. Mine is an unbuilt frame and fork in Molteni orange; even the
> same size as Ray's. These are some of the identical, and different features,
> I noted between mine and Ray Robbins:
>
> 1) headtube and seat tube decals are same (mine are black with a yet lighter
> orange outline) as are the lugs
> 2) the world championship bands are the same
> 3) my Columbus decal is different; it says Tubi Rinforzati Garantiti on one
> line above the red oval; Acciao Speciali with oval in between those words;
> the word Columbus belo w the oval. It's style appears to me to be more modern
> than that of Ray's bike.
> 4) The shape of the bottom of the club on my downtube lug is exactly the
> same shape is that of the ones on the fork; it has a slight curvature
> (downward). On Ray's, that lug has a straight bottom (which is different
> from the fork). Perhaps this is just an inconsistency in the creation rather
> than an indication of year.
> 5) Mine has clubs in the fork tangs (did not see a photo of Ray's in this
> area)
> 6) Mine has the #16. In the past I have discussed these numbers with
> e-richie and he didn't think they were a serial number. What do they mean?
>
> Angel Garcia
> Long Valley, NJ"
>
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