Re: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay

(Example: History:Ted Ernst)

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "Nick Zatezalo" <nickzz@mindspring.com>, "CR List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <27310398.1154003209925.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:20:55 -0700
reply-type=original

Confente / Confetti; Pista / Pasta; Strada / Sewera; Colnago / Colnutto; have fun guys. I'll enjoy looking at Dydo's travails.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Zatezalo
To: CR List
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:26 AM
Subject: Fw: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay



> This auction flies against how most of us would market an item for sale.
>
> However as Chuck states below; it could be a real deal for the person
> willing
> to do proper due diligence and protect themselves from misrepresentation
> or fraud by the seller.
>
> Personally I think it is plausible that the item is for real, and if I had
> a serious
> interest; would be collecting information that would make me feel
> comfortable
> about closing the deal or not.
>
> This one requires a bit more effort than gawking at high resolution pixs
> and placing a
> bid on a snipe program.
>
> Nick Zatezalo
> Atlanta,Ga
>
>
> -----Forwarded Message-----
>>From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>>Sent: Jul 27, 2006 2:59 AM
>>To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>
>>Sometimes (often?) something wonderful happens when a guy puts up a
>>poorly crafted auction.
>>
>>The CR membership's reaction is, "Hummm, something hinky is going on
>>here! Not interested!" But the guy who really wants a Confente
>>goes, "I guess I just need to make an extra effort and find out what
>>this guy's got." Often it results in getting something for a bargain
>>in the end. Over the past 30 plus years I've collected some amazing
>>stories to go with my bargains.
>>
>>Poorly crafted auctions scare off the dilettantes.
>>
>>Chuck Schmidt
>>South Pasadena, Southern California
>>
>>
>>David Toppin wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the lack of pictures certainly would make me question it!
>>>
>>>
>>> David Toppin
>>> dave@pelletizer.com
>>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>>>
>>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>>> 4 LaChance Street
>>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>>
>>> (978) 669-0060
>>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>> Schmidt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:42 PM
>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>
>>> Not the point actually. Of course everything can be done better
>>> with very
>>> little effort. But this thread started out with the assertion that
>>> the
>>> auction was questionable.
>>>
>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>
>>> David Toppin wrote:
>>>
>>>> But it wouldn't hurt, and probably the bike would bring more money
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Toppin
>>>> dave@pelletizer.com
>>>> http://www.pelletizer.com <------ see our complete, searchable inventory.
>>>>
>>>> The Pelletizer Group, Inc.
>>>> 4 LaChance Street
>>>> Gardner, MA 01440-2476
>>>>
>>>> (978) 669-0060
>>>> (978) 669-0061 fax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
>>>> Schmidt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:16 PM
>>>> To: CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS
>>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember ever hearing that selling a fairly rare and
>>>> desirable
>>>> bike required the seller to be polite...
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2006, at 6:13 PM, Mike Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yo Chuck,
>>>>>
>>>>> The dude is a rude. I can corroborate Tom Sander's story of the
>>>>> seller's
>>>>> bedside manner. If you are going to sell a rare bike, a seller
>>>>> should be
>>>>> able to show photos, not illustrations, that represent its
>>>>> condition.
>>>>> So far, he illustrates his arrogance better than the bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> A brown Confente? Barf! Retch!, no wonder he does not want to show
>>>>> photos.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Schmidt reporting live on a balmy July evening from..
>>>>> South Stirling, Southern part of Northern NJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "CLASSIC RENDEZVOUS" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 8:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CR]Confente on E-Bay
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This whole thread is starting to make me laugh! I see no "RED
>>>>>> FLAGS"
>>>>>> with this auction whatsoever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The seller states:
>>>>>> "...local pickup only (no shipping)." and "Cash only (no cashier
>>>>>> checks) will be accepted on buyers approval of item. Wire money
>>>>>> directly to my bank."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I was selling my Confente (two numbers before the frame being
>>>>>> auctioned) I'd have the buyer (or his representative) look over the
>>>>>> frame and then, upon their approval of the frame, give me the CASH.
>>>>>> There's no way I'd pack up a frame worth $4500 plus and send it off
>>>>>> with a shipper... no way. And yes, if a complete Confente went for
>>>>>> $8,000 on eBay more than a few years ago (a CR member was the
>>>>>> buyer), then the frame might actually be worth $4500... if you want
>>>>>> to own a Confente that is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time for the list to take their chill pill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck Schmidt
>>>>>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .