Re: [CR]Ebay Yellow Nagasawa Track...Exquisite... - Yes but...

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:29:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ebay Yellow Nagasawa Track...Exquisite... - Yes but...
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I have very little knowledge regarding what makes for a well built frame. And, I do not understand this:
> Forget the lack of file marks -

What is this supposed to mean? Why would anyone buy a frame with file marks on it?

I have a '62 Peugeot PX-10 frameset sitting right behind me. I am looking at it and cannot see a single file mark. Is it junk? In fact, it looks like the entire bike is a bunch of tubes and sockets (lugs) all just pushed into each other and painted over.

Note the little crossbar that connects the chainstays that is fitted just behind the BB shell on the Nagasawa--it has quality molded diamond shaped ends--the PX-10 looks like someone just cut up a little tube and banged it down in there with a mallet.

The Nagasawa dropouts (front and rear) look totally wicked!

And for cryin' out loud, this frameset is currently sitting at $1,450.00.

Ted Baer
Palo Alto, CA

--- wrote:

> In a message dated 7/14/2006 7:27:38 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> writes:
> Forget the lack of file marks - those dropouts are
> a borderline insult to
> the spirit of fine framebuilding. With cast lugs
> and now the plug in faux cast
> dropout connections, the spirt of framebuilding is
> being lost...
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
> I hope we don't have to debate the spirit of frame
> building and frame
> builders this year. It's all in the archives ad
> nauseam.
> Jonathan Greene
> Oviedo FL
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