Re: [CR] quarreling frame builders

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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:25:01 -0400
From: "Edward Albert" <Edward.H.Albert@hofstra.edu>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] quarreling frame builders


I very much agree here with Chuck and would even go further. My brother who, before retiring, was the codes enforcement officer for a large New England town (that shall remain nameless) used to go on and on about the absolute bad workmanship he would see when inspecting construction sites on very old 18th and 19th century homes. Those old handworkingcraftsmen cut every corner they could, used waste material to fill gaps, and used construction techniques that just made no sense, and he often wondered how the structures ever stood up at all, never mind for so long. The good old days were not necessarily so good they were just old. Edward Albert Chappaqua, NY, USA (Dale)

remember hearing stories from my brother who,
>>> Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> 08/04/06 6:09 PM >>> I guess that I misunderstood you then Gabriel if respect for handwork

comes from using a screwdriver and working on a construction site. I

thought you meant respect and the appreciation of craftsmanship by your phrase "respect for handwork".

I think (my opinion here) that if you went back to a period when everything was made by hand, that there was no more appreciation (respect) for handwork than there would be now by the general populous. But I would say there are more people now that seek out something made by hand and have an appreciation for craftsmanship than ever before. Maybe you would call these people "afficiendos" but that's not how I would characterize them.

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:54 AM, gabriel l romeu wrote:
> by the afficiendos Chuck. How many kids aspire to an occupation
> that incorporates handwork these days? How many people are going
> out of their way to buy something uniquely hand made in the
> furniture market- my greatest competition is high end production.
>
> HOw many young people do you know of that has picked up a
> screwdriver? How many do you see working on a construction site?
>
> or it just could be sunny and hot central new jersey, usa,
>
> c ya, gabriel
>
> Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>> Gabriel Romeu wrote:
>>> Also, there does not seem to be as much respect for handwork
>>> these days.
>>> That will change (I think and hope) as it becomes rarer. This
>>> list, as a whole has one thing in common, we all have a deep
>>> respect for the object and what it took to produce that object.
>> Can't speak for the rest of the US but here in California it seems
>> to me there has always been a demand and respect for handwork.
>> Bikes, motorcycles, cars, houses etc. back as far as can be
>> imagined. I'm sure it can't be unique to California...
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>
> --
> gabriel l romeu
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