RE: [CR] WTT: 1971 Campagnolo Record Pedals.

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From: "R.S. Broderick" <rsb000@hotmail.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: RE: [CR] WTT: 1971 Campagnolo Record Pedals.
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:37:50 -0500
cc: theonetrueBob@webtv.net

I wholeheartedly concur with respect to your two exemplary choices for durable period pedals not having an annoying quill. As a matter of fact, my own choice for a racing pedal back in the day was the Lyotard 460-D with Christophe Competition "Z" alloy clips and 526 straps with alloy bits - which brings me to the very minor point that I would like to make regarding said pedals. Upon reading your post, one might infer that the 460 was ONLY available in an alloy configuration, and that was not the case. In fact, this particular pedal design was available for purchase as a 460-A having steel barrel and cages, the 460-D comprised of aluminum components as you pointed out, and then in the late 1970's Lyotard added the 460-D BMX which was basically the same alloy 460-D pedal excepting that the BMX editions offered a choice of anodized colorations (...black, red, gold, and blue) beyond the standard silver. So, before anyone out there decides to hunt down a pair of Lyotard 460's on eBay expecting them to be constructed of lightweight aluminum, I would advise that they be certain to verify their material construction in advance of tendering a bid.

Robert "et tutu, Lyotard?" Broderick ...the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota

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>From: theonetrueBob@webtv.net (Bob Hanson)

>To: ternst1@cox.net

>CC: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>Subject: RE: [CR] WTT: 1971 Campagnolo Record Pedals.

>Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 19:11:53 -0600

>

>I really like Ted Ernst's idea of "modifying" Campy road pedals... BUT,

>I don't have the nerve to alter a set (of my own) with a saw.

>

>I now use the same pedals on several of my bikes as the ones which had

>originally come as stock pedals on my old Helyett 'Speciale - Piste'

>(track bike) ... back in the 1960s.

>

>These are the Lyotard "Marcel Berthet" Mod. 23. Originally intended for

>use as track pedals, they have essentially a solid flat top (with just a

>slight bar toward the rear for slotted nail-on cletes) the only

>intrusion onto the top is a small nib above the spindle nearest the

>cranks.

>

>They're great for riding with even non-cleted casual cycling shoes.

>Single-sided and absolutely must be used with toe clips & straps, They

>feature a prominent read "tongue" to help kick the pedals up for entry.

>Completely made of chromed steel, yet weight is still well under 400

>grams/ pair... with steel clips & leather straps, figure maybe 500

>grams.

>

>Second choice in my Quill Pedal Hall of Fame is the Lyotard Mod. 460.

>Simple double-sided quill pedal with alloy barrel and alloy cage. May

>be used with tennis shoes on your City bike - and even without clips &

>straps.

>

>These really were intended as Touring pedals. Unlike many "Racing

>pedals of the day, they do not have all the annoying raised nibs to

>channel or cradle your narrow Italian leather racing shoes on your now

>stunted little American feet. There is only a single nib above the

>spindle - again, closest to the crank arms, which is exactly where it

>"should" be - to keep your shoes from gouging your priceless crank arms.

>Around 330 grams / pair.

>

>BOTH of those pedals had been around since at least as far back as the

>1950s in their final forms, and were being produced till perhaps early

>1980s. So, chances are, they'll be period correct for most of our

>bikes.

>

>I really cannot believe how small my feet were 35 years ago... or rather

>how much they have grown once released from the bondage of those old

>Detta Pietros.

>

>If anyone has further pedal suggestions, I'd love to discover any old

>gems I may have overlooked.

>

>Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA