[CR]Re: Mariposa and Alcyon

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From: "Bicycle Specialties" <mike@bikespecialties.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:31:11 -0800
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Subject: [CR]Re: Mariposa and Alcyon

I have been making and selling Mariposa bikes since 1969. Originally from my store Bicyclesport in downtown Toronto and since 1991 from our present business Bicycle Specialties. Over the years we are often asked if we can produce some good serviceable frames at a lower price than Mariposa. Each Mariposa is and always has, been individually built for a particular customer. This practice increases the cost over batch built frames. A few years ago we decided to make a batch of frames from all the odd tubes that we had accumulated over the years. All good tubing but not sets. A batch of frames was made to stock sizes using a mixture of Columbus and Reynolds 531. We didn't want to sell these under the Mariposa name and decided, after looking into the legality, to resurrect the old Alcyon name. Back in the thirties when Tour de France riders had to ride bikes supplied by the organizers they rode yellow unmarked Alcyons. Our new generation Alcyons were similarly painted yellow. We later had Marinoni build some Alcyons for us. The name continues. Although we haven't produced any lately we intend to get some more made in the not too distant future.

Mike Barry.

Inner sunny and warm (relatively) Toronto.


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> 1. Re: Interesting photo of Eddy on a white Faema-Merckx (Masi?)
> trackbike (Yoong Lee)
> 2. Nice Geoff Scott frame on OzBay (Ben Kamenjas)
> 3. Re: ebay auction ending soon-CYCLE TRACK "ALCYON 1930" - VINTAGE
> - NOS - RARE
> 4. The Peugeot Lion (Ray Green)
> 5. Re: ebay auction... "ALCYON 1930" .. why no bids?
> 6. Alcyon Track bike on French Ebay (Norris Lockley)
> 7. Alcyon
> 8. ROOLD bike on USA Ebay (Norris Lockley)
> 9. Nice bikes in Florida (Schmid)
> 10. Re: Nice bikes in Florida (Ken Sanford)
> 11. Re: That PX-10 on eBay....Now PX 10 Frames FA
> 12. Re: Nice bikes in Florida
> 13. Was: nice bikes in Flordia Now: Nice bikes in California (Schmid)
> 14. Was: nice bikes in Flordia Now: Nice bikes in California (Schmid)
> 15. Re: Re: ebay auction... "ALCYON 1930" .. why no bids?
> (billungardesign@juno.com)
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:55:37 +0900
> From: "Yoong Lee" <yoonglee@jupiter.livedoor.com>
> To: "CR RENDEZVOUS" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Interesting photo of Eddy on a white Faema-Merckx (Masi?)
> trackbike
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> Hello, Tam!
>
> Did you learn that Merckx rode Colnago and De Rosa from the very early
> time he tuned pro? Correct me if I might be wrong. However, I have heard
> from former Japanese Olympic official in Tokyo who watched Merkx's bike
> that it was Peugeot when he came to Tokyo Olympic Games in 1964 and I have
> learned that he soon after the big event he became a pro androde an
> Italian
> frame named Poriagi (spell??) and Masi briefly before he chose Colnago and
> later De Rosa .
>
>
>> I've amassed a nice collection of Merckx photos and here's an interesting
>> one that I'd like to hear some opinions on. Scanned photo can be viewed
>> here:
>>
>> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/default/images/55/original.aspx
>>
>> The bike seems to be a Masi. Can some of the Masi experts elaborate
>> further
>> on its visible features? What year might this be from?
>>
>> Tam Pham
>> Huntington Beach, CA - USA
>> (wishing I had that bike!)
>>
>>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 22:32:59 +1100
> From: Ben Kamenjas <kamenjas@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Nice Geoff Scott frame on OzBay
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> coolio's,
>
> A neat frame made by aussie builder Geoff Scott (gefsco) has been
> listed on auction. mid 80's, 55cm, reynolds753.
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> fork_W0QQitemZ140070732900
>
> The seller is a certified vintage bike nut and super trustworthy guy.
> The frameset is a nice example of an excellent local builder.
>
> ciao,
>
> Ben Kamenjas
> Sydney, Oz
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:37:12 +0000
> From: mdschmidt@patmedia.net
> To: "John Waner" <x76911s@socal.rr.com>,
> classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org,
> "List CR" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]ebay auction ending soon-CYCLE TRACK "ALCYON 1930" -
> VINTAGE
> - NOS - RARE
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> Easy, holiday financials impacting sales.
>
> Mike Schmidt
> Stirling, NJ
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Waner <x76911s@socal.rr.com>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:29:03
> To:List CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]
> ebay auction ending soon-CYCLE TRACK "ALCYON 1930" - VINTAGE - NOS - RARE
>
> By the time anyone reads this the auction will be over,
> I don't know anything about the bike. Question is...
> Why, with 4.30 hours left, are there no bids on this?
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> RARE_W0QQitemZ110074564764QQihZ001QQcategoryZ56197QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZ
> ViewItem
>
> if link doesn't work it is item # 110074564764
>
> John Waner
> Huntington Beach, CA.
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 13:45:52 -0000
> From: "Ray Green" <greenjersey@talktalk.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]The Peugeot Lion
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> Bob Hanson writes<< "The first lion is designed for marking saw blades
> and steel products. It symbolizes the three qualities of Peugeot saw
> blades: the toughness of the teeth, the flexibility of the blade, and
> the speed >>
> I am not sure that the Peugeot lion symbolises any of these things. I
> believe it is more properly the Lion of Belfort the symbol of the
> company's home region. There is a famous statue of the lion at Belfort
> that is about 60 feet long. It was erected to commemorate the City's
> heroic resistance in the Franco-Prussian war (about 1870).
> Ray Green (owner of Peugeot automobiles since 1977) Harrow, Middlesex.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:34:22 -0500
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Re: ebay auction... "ALCYON 1930" .. why no bids?
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> This is pure opinion of course, but I think this bike is a perfect example
> where a restoration process somehow robs much of the soul of a bike.
>
> I personally am just not attracted to that bike aesthetically, nor does it
> seem to convey a sense of it's heritage or character in that paint job.
> Not sure what should have been done; that very well could have been it's
> original color, and if it were severely distressed, it may well have had
> to be refinished... but the result is not good IMHO.
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: x76911s@socal.rr.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 3:29 AM
> Subject: [CR] ebay auction ending soon-CYCLE TRACK "ALCYON 1930" -
> VINTAGE - NOS - RARE
>
> By the time anyone reads this the auction will be over,
> I don't know anything about the bike. Question is...
> Why, with 4.30 hours left, are there no bids on this?
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> if link doesn't work it is item # 110074564764
>
> John Waner
> Huntington Beach, CA.
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> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:58:27 +0000
> From: Norris Lockley <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Alcyon Track bike on French Ebay
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>
> There is, apparently, a bit of a doubt, in fact a large doubt, as to
> whther
> this is genuinely an Alcyon.
>
>
>
> Knowing that I am keen on French bikes, and that I purchase quite alot of
> t
> hem on French Ebay, a close friend of mine in France, who is also a
> well-kn
> own and respected seller on Ebay, actually telephoned me to advise me NOT
> t
> o bid on this machine
>
> My friend knows of the seller of the Alcyon, says the bike is not an
> Alcyon
> and that some of the parts are certainly not original. Had the machine bee
> n as claimed, then my mate would have bid on it in any case.
>
>
>
> I have several 1930 Alcyons, but admittedly no track irons. My Alcyons
> have
> distinctive frame features that are not on this bike..the fork crown for o
> ne instance. The seller claims that the hubs are Alcyon Campagnolo...never
> heard of them.
>
> The chainset, had it been an Alcyon one would have had 3 letters "A"
> stamped into the design.
>
> Admittedly the large aluminium Alcyon badge is legitimate, but I am not
> sur
> e from which date it applied, because Alcyon had five or six variations on
> the theme. The bar/stem unit resemble a unit on a 1936 Acyon T-d-F bike
> tha
> t I own..but the unit could of course been a non-Alcyon product available
> t
> o and used by a number of manufacturers, such as Automoto.
>
>
>
> My friend suggested that the seller is new..and not very knowledgeable. If
> you have any doubts about this statement, check out the Stronglight double
> chainset that this seller has put up for sale., as he seems to be mixing
> up
> his Stronglight models with his Nervar ones.
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
> Norris Lockley, Settle UK
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:01:59 -0500
> From: loudeeter@aol.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Alcyon
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> Does anyone know of a connection between Alcyon and Mariposa? This Alcyon
> in the below auction appears to be a French company from the first half of
> the 20th century, but if you go to the archives, there are 40 posts that
> show a connection to Mariposa for a randonneur bicycle named Alcyon.
> http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=%22alcyon%22%20and%20%22mariposa%22
>
> Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 9:34 AM
> Subject: [CR]Re: ebay auction... "ALCYON 1930" .. why no bids?
>
>
> This is pure opinion of course, but I think this bike is a perfect example
> where a restoration process somehow robs much of the soul of a bike.
>
> I personally am just not attracted to that bike aesthetically, nor does it
> seem
> to convey a sense of it's heritage or character in that paint job. Not
> sure what
> should have been done; that very well could have been it's original color,
> and
> if it were severely distressed, it may well have had to be refinished...
> but the
> result is not good IMHO.
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: x76911s@socal.rr.com
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 3:29 AM
> Subject: [CR] ebay auction ending soon-CYCLE TRACK "ALCYON 1930" -
> VINTAGE -
> NOS - RARE
>
> By the time anyone reads this the auction will be over,
> I don't know anything about the bike. Question is...
> Why, with 4.30 hours left, are there no bids on this?
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
>
> if link doesn't work it is item # 110074564764
>
> John Waner
> Huntington Beach, CA.
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> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:09:22 +0000
> From: Norris Lockley <norris.lockley@talktalk.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]ROOLD bike on USA Ebay
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>
> As I visit S/H warehouses and the like in France I have some across quite
> a
> lot of ROOLD bikes.
>
>
>
> The vast majority of them are mid-range ones such as the one for sale,
> some
> are "Course" some are "Touriste" etc etc. However, last September I did ma
> nage to win, on French Ebay a bike, at a very modest price, that turned
> out
> to be a ROOLD. It is built from Reyno0lds SMS tubing..a short-lived series
> from somewhere in the 80s.
>
> The bike is quite nicely put together and is equipped with Shimano 600
> seri
> es equipment..or rather a mix of 600..and some French components from
> Nerva
> r, mafac etc.
>
>
>
> When a collector mate of mine checked it out he told me that he had come
> ac
> ross quite a lot of very good quality...not quite top-of-the-range -
> machin
> es, built with 531 tubing, and typically French equipment. He knew of
> Roold
> and told me that it had been a very old established company, trading on a
> regional basis in the same way as many other French manufacturers did, eg
> L
> iberia in Grenoble, Lapierre in Dijon, Leleu in Northern France etc,
> Gottfr
> ied in Dole.
>
>
>
> The outingn of this bike to the List reminds me that I had decided to
> check
> further into the history of the company. I do recall that the manufacturer
> did actually sponsor a pro team some few years ago..50s/60s, I think
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Norris Lockley, Settle UK
>
>
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>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:18:59 +0100
> From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Nice bikes in Florida
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> Hi List,
> Check out this sellers stuff
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> some excellent frames and a stunning original AD vent noir and a nearly
> untouched Raleigh grand prix. I like the pictures the seller made, nice
> reference for my own bikes
> I do not know the seller but suspect it is a listmember.
>
> Michael Schmid
> Oberammergau
> Germany
> Tel.: +49 8821 798790
> Fax.:+49 8821 798791
> mail: schmid@zunterer.com
> http://www.zunterer.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:26:58 -0500
> From: "Ken Sanford" <kanford@comcast.net>
> To: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Nice bikes in Florida
> Message-ID: <001601c73014$c6524cb0$6501a8c0@D5FSLZ21>
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> I do believe the seller is the man with Many bikes, listmember Matt
> Gorski.
>
> (what is connection with Florida?)
>
> Ken Sanford
> Kensington, MD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:18 AM
> Subject: [CR]Nice bikes in Florida
>
>
>> Hi List,
>> Check out this sellers stuff
>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> some excellent frames and a stunning original AD vent noir and a nearly
>> untouched Raleigh grand prix. I like the pictures the seller made, nice
>> reference for my own bikes
>> I do not know the seller but suspect it is a listmember.
>>
>> Michael Schmid
>> Oberammergau
>> Germany
>> Tel.: +49 8821 798790
>> Fax.:+49 8821 798791
>> mail: schmid@zunterer.com
>> http://www.zunterer.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:44:22 -0600 (CST)
> From: <bikenut@verizon.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....Now PX 10 Frames FA
> Message-ID:
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> I have some less than humble PX 10 type frames listed for Auction on Ebay.
> Save these frames from "Le Boneyard!"
>
> 200063104702
> 200063104979
> 200063105054
>
> or just go to main listing...
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah
>
> Matt Gorski
> Belmont Shore, CA
>
>
>
>>From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
>>Date: 2007/01/03 Wed PM 08:04:47 CST
>>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....
>
>>Well that humble '72 Peugeot PX-10, the one with the boring 'ol lugs,
>>the icky rack and the uncool kickstand fetched $538.00 and 32, yes, 32
>>bids. Yep the one everyone here thought was somewhere between a Huffy
>>and a Free Spirit.
>>
>>One of the highest prices ever for an eBay 70s PX-10.
>>
>>If I ever sell a PX-10, can you guys please, please denigrate it!!!
>>
>>Peter Kohler
>>Washington DC USA
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:46:53 -0600 (CST)
> From: <bikenut@verizon.net>
> To: Schmid <schmidi@gaponline.de>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Nice bikes in Florida
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> I am the suspected listmember, except that I am in Southern California.
>
> Matt Gorski
> Belmont Shore,
> CALIFORNIA
> US of A
>
>
>>From: Schmid <schmidi@gaponline.de>
>>Date: 2007/01/04 Thu AM 09:18:59 CST
>>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: [CR]Nice bikes in Florida
>
>>Hi List,
>>Check out this sellers stuff
>>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>some excellent frames and a stunning original AD vent noir and a nearly
>>untouched Raleigh grand prix. I like the pictures the seller made, nice
>>reference for my own bikes
>> I do not know the seller but suspect it is a listmember.
>>
>>Michael Schmid
>>Oberammergau
>>Germany
>>Tel.: +49 8821 798790
>>Fax.:+49 8821 798791
>>mail: schmid@zunterer.com
>>www.zunterer.com
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:36:54 +0100
> From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
> To: <bikenut@verizon.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Was: nice bikes in Flordia Now: Nice bikes in California
> Message-ID: <000501c7301e$8b7b6360$0758a8c0@Twinhead>
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> Sorry for locating esteemed loistmember to Florida, I got theis
> impressin since in one of the auctions (the gitane) it was mentioned
> that the bike survived in a Garage in Florida. On later inspection I swa
> that of course the loaction was stated correctly Long Beach....
> Pleas forgive a sometimes sloppy reading foreigner...
> Regards
>
> Michael Schmid
> Oberammergau -where the weather today is not at all like in California
> (or Florida...)
> Germany
> Tel.: +49 8821 798790
> Fax.:+49 8821 798791
> mail: schmid@zunterer.com
> http://www.zunterer.com
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von
> bikenut@verizon.net
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 16:44
> An: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Betreff: Re: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....Now PX 10 Frames FA
>
>
> I have some less than humble PX 10 type frames listed for Auction on
> Ebay. Save these frames from "Le Boneyard!"
>
> 200063104702
> 200063104979
> 200063105054
>
> or just go to main listing...
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah
>>
>
> Matt Gorski
> Belmont Shore, CA
>
>
>
>>From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
>>Date: 2007/01/03 Wed PM 08:04:47 CST
>>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....
>
>>Well that humble '72 Peugeot PX-10, the one with the boring 'ol lugs,
>>the icky rack and the uncool kickstand fetched $538.00 and 32, yes, 32
>>bids. Yep the one everyone here thought was somewhere between a Huffy
>>and a Free Spirit.
>>
>>One of the highest prices ever for an eBay 70s PX-10.
>>
>>If I ever sell a PX-10, can you guys please, please denigrate it!!!
>>
>>Peter Kohler
>>Washington DC USA
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:38:28 +0100
> From: "Schmid" <schmidi@gaponline.de>
> To: <bikenut@verizon.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Was: nice bikes in Flordia Now: Nice bikes in California
> Message-ID: <000601c7301e$c382a660$0758a8c0@Twinhead>
> In-Reply-To:
> <7494562.2850151167925463737.JavaMail.root@vms227.mailsrvcs.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1"
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Precedence: list
> Message: 14
>
> Hi Matt ona List,
> Sorry for locating esteemed listmember Matt Gorski to Florida, I got
> thei impressinn since in one of the auctions (the gitane) it was
> mentioned that the bike survived in a garage in Florida. On later
> inspection I saw that of course the loaction was stated correctly Long
> Beach.... Please forgive a sometimes sloppy reading foreigner... Regards
>
> Michael Schmid
> Oberammergau -where the weather today is not at all like in California
> (or Florida...) Germany
> Tel.: +49 8821 798790
> Fax.:+49 8821 798791
> mail: schmid@zunterer.com
> http://www.zunterer.com
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] Im Auftrag von
> bikenut@verizon.net
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 16:44
> An: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Betreff: Re: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....Now PX 10 Frames FA
>
>
> I have some less than humble PX 10 type frames listed for Auction on
> Ebay. Save these frames from "Le Boneyard!"
>
> 200063104702
> 200063104979
> 200063105054
>
> or just go to main listing...
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah
>>
>
> Matt Gorski
> Belmont Shore, CA
>
>
>
>>From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@starpower.net>
>>Date: 2007/01/03 Wed PM 08:04:47 CST
>>To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>Subject: [CR]That PX-10 on eBay....
>
>>Well that humble '72 Peugeot PX-10, the one with the boring 'ol lugs,
>>the icky rack and the uncool kickstand fetched $538.00 and 32, yes, 32
>>bids. Yep the one everyone here thought was somewhere between a Huffy
>>and a Free Spirit.
>>
>>One of the highest prices ever for an eBay 70s PX-10.
>>
>>If I ever sell a PX-10, can you guys please, please denigrate it!!!
>>
>>Peter Kohler
>>Washington DC USA
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:10:15 GMT
> From: "billungardesign@juno.com" <billungardesign@juno.com>
> To: oroboyz@aol.com
> Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: ebay auction... "ALCYON 1930" .. why no bids?
> Message-ID: <20070104.101040.14368.1593036@webmail23.nyc.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Precedence: list
> Message: 15
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> Its only speculation, but the lack of interest in the Alcyon "1930" may
> be due to the following:
>
> 1. Frame is not lugged, which I think deminishes from its appearance.
> 2. Powder blue paint job appears it could be a spray can job (from
> pics), and somehow does not seem to be a '30s period color. If the
> color of a bike is not balanced with the parts (plays too big a role),
> it can distract from the appearance, I believe.
>
> 3. Fork does not seem to be 30's period. Correct me if I am wrong, but
> I believe forks had considerable rake back then, up through the 60's.
> Fork appears to be a 70's/80's fork?
> 4. Components appear to be a mixture of 50's and 60's period, while the
> stated age of bike is 30's? So where are the '30s parts. I may be wrong
> about this.
>
> All in all, these factors together certainly might discourage a CR
> enthusiest, as well as folks who might want a beautiful old bike.
>
> Bill Ungar
> Torrance, CA
> USA
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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