Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike? (Ian Briggs)

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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:59:54 +0000
Subject: Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike? (Ian Briggs)
From: "Simon PJ" <simonpj@mac.com>
To: <LeMansGTMAN@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <bfc.dec2fc4.32da8fbf@aol.com>


Ian Briggs wrote:
> Having said all that I believe we've had this conversation on CR recently -
> RE: Builders running businesses actually having the time / inclination to
> search their records for info etc., - So perhaps wait to see if you get any
> response from the list, and keep contacting E-B as a last resort!?

I will contact Ellis Briggs if I need to. But, yes, what Bruce Gordon and others have said on the matter means that I am inclined to respect their time if possible.
> but I'm biased, I just love any Ellis Briggs anyway
> (mainly because it was the first lightweight that I ever raced on back in
> 1968 - but that's another story).

What's the story? Were you racing near Shipley?
> Maybe there is an Ellis Briggs afficianado on the list who could decode the
> frame number or knows how their numbering system works?

The frame number is: 5720 - A/1.82
> What a gorgeous bike...

Yes, I'm delighted with it. I don't have experience of fillet brazed frames, but the work all looks extremely clean to me. And I'm also surprised at the relatively light weight of the bike, which comes in at just under twenty pounds as it is in the photos.

Best,

Wyndham Pulman-Jones Girton, Cambs., UK

On 13/1/07 19:40, "LeMansGTMAN@aol.com" <LeMansGTMAN@aol.com> wrote:
>
> What a gorgeous bike... but I'm biased, I just love any Ellis Briggs anyway
> (mainly because it was the first lightweight that I ever raced on back in
> 1968 - but that's another story).
>
> Anyway, have you thought of just contacting Ellis Briggs direct with the
> frame number?
>
> I believe they have pretty comprehensive build records there still and as
> long as they're not suddenly deluged with dozens of anxious E-B owners trying
> to find provenence for their frames they'll probably be inclined to assist.
>
> They were quite helpful when I phoned them a few years back to try and ID a
> frame I had bought as an "E-B" and which they told me was no such thing. It
> turned out to be a Raleigh in the end by the way...
>
> Having said all that I believe we've had this conversation on CR recently -
> RE: Builders running businesses actually having the time / inclination to
> search their records for info etc., - So perhaps wait to see if you get any
> response from the list, and keep contacting E-B as a last resort!?
>
> Maybe there is an Ellis Briggs afficianado on the list who could decode the
> frame number or knows how their numbering system works?

>

> Ian Briggs

> LUTON - UK