Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?

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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:44:10 +0000
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Simon PJ <simonpj@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?
References: <C1CFB2C8.31A82%simonpj@mac.com>
In-Reply-To:
cc: bit_eimer <bit_eimer@cox.net>
cc: bit_eimer

I also think that the 1.82 on your bike confirms it as Jan 1982 - with frame numbers often assumptions are made about coding but in this case I am sure there is no doubt. Speedstream tubing was available from the early 80s; certainly not in 1976.

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Simon PJ wrote:
> Many thanks Derek. 1982 makes much more sense.
>
> Wyndham Pulman-Jones
> Girton, Cambs., UK
>
> On 14/1/07 05:02, "bit_eimer" <bit_eimer@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey Wyndham,
>>
>> I was watching that E-B Favori, but decided the shipping to the States would
>> likely be prohibitive. As to your question, sending a note to E-B will most
>> assuredly give you a specific date - that's what I did. For reference, my
>> three E-Bs are:
>>
>> 5789 - San Remo Super built 15/11/82
>>
>> 5245 - San Remo Super built 12/1/76
>>
>> 5093 - San Remo built 19/11/74
>>
>> Although mine are E-Bs, not Favori, I'd bet that the serial numbers were
>> shared between the two lines and that your 5720 places it squarely in 1982.
>>
>> ...Derek Davis, Phoenix
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Simon PJ [mailto:simonpj@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:17 AM
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR]Photos: dating Ellis-Briggs SpeedStream bike?
>>>
>>> I have posted some quickly taken photos of a recently acquired Ellis-
>>> Briggs
>>> 'Favori' brand bike built in 531 SpeedStream:
>>>
>>> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/simonpj/EB-Favori/
>>>
>>> The person that sold me the bike (the original owner) dated the frame at
>>> 1976, but that sounds early for an aero tubed bike. The Super Record rear
>>> mech is from 1977 but could easily pre-date the frame.
>>>
>>> You'll see that the frame is currently wearing an eclectic mix of parts.
>>> I'd
>>> like to fit it out with period correct parts reflecting the aero intention
>>> of the frame - so would like to establish whether it really does date back
>>> to 1976 or it's in fact from the early eighties. Which, for example, would
>>> help decide whether Shimano AX parts would be appropriate.
>>>
>>> Do you know of any online sources about this early aero era?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Wyndham Pulman-Jones
>>> Girton, Cambs., UK.