Re: [CR]A rickert on ebay for 8000,00 Euros

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "Steve Maas" <bikestuff@nonlintec.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <000001c7389a$d2afe3d0$0758a8c0@Twinhead> <45AC1DF4.9040509@new.rr.com> <45AC4C3B.20304@nonlintec.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]A rickert on ebay for 8000,00 Euros
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:21:18 -0800
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Rickert started making frames in 1955. He stopped about 2002/3 when he had a stroke and couldn't work any more. Hugo Rickert tried to keep going with one arm and his wife tried to hold the frame and stuff to braze. His being in a wheelchair made it somewhat awkward. So he unwantingly had to pack it in and sold al his stuff off. Any thing out of this time frame is bogus. Hugo and his wife Doris are personal friends since 1958.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Maas
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]A rickert on ebay for 8000,00 Euros



> Re: ebay item 150079724379
>
> This is indeed odd, not only the conversion of a track bike to a street
> bike. Interesting that the derailleur hanger obviously had to be welded
> on, but no one bothered to make any frame modifications so it could have a
> rear brake. Thus the ugly clamp.
>
> The responses to questions are also interesting. The seller claims that
> his father, who was on the national team in 1936, did the modifications
> and repaint for Walter Leppich, who was the 1936 national champion. This
> would have to have been in (roughly) the late 80s, given the Shimano 600
> components, so the guy would have been--maybe in his 70s? So, here you
> are, 70 years old, bad knees, hemorrhoids and all, and you go to a former
> teammate and ask him to turn you old track bike into a street machine?
> Somehow, this all seems pretty strange to me....
>
> Steve Maas
> (Freezing my wimpy buns off in)
> Long Beach, California.
>
> (PS: You people in Minnesota, STOP SMIRKING!)
>
>
>
> John Thompson wrote:
>> Schmid wrote:
>>> Wanted to point out a surreal german auction here:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.de/Rennrad-Schweizer-Olypia-Bahnmaschine_W0QQitemZ150079
>>> 724379QQihZ005QQcategoryZ9194QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> Seems to be a Rickert Track frame later on changed to a streetmachine.
>>> Interesting trackends with derailleur hanger. Seller claims bike had
>>> famous owner and states some mystic facts about 1936. The seller has
>>> obviously no clue of the real value. His other auctions reflect that
>>> too, asking 35.000 Euros for a piece of antique furniture. Or did he
>>> miss some basics on ebay?
>>
>> The owner appears to be overly optimistic at least. But he's only been
>> an eBay member for a month and has no other sales.
>>
>> But who knows? Maybe hubris sells.