[CR]Rene Herse fish-mouth or Nervex spear-point?

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:15:33 -0800 (PST)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Rene Herse fish-mouth or Nervex spear-point?

Don't laugh. I do not know the answer to which is more desirable between the old fish-mouth style lugs or the Nervex spear-point lugs that apparently graced the Rene-Herse bicycles of different eras.

Personally I think the old fish-mouth lugs are quite classy.

On a different note, what does it mean when you find an old frame with a nice paint job yet there are "gaps" between areas of the lugs and a fully inserted tube (be it top tube, seat tube, or down tube?) I trip on how I can stick my fingernail in between said areas. Is this a result of a hack frame-builder? How could the nicer bicycles wind up like this? Doesn't the builder go around the lug with a rubber mallet or something? Or did the builders in the instances described herein just not know how to braze?

Ted E. Baer Going to eat those pork chops today at Trader Vic's! Palo Alto, CA