Re: [CR]Grand Jubile or Grand Record?? (now headbadges..)

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From: "Pat Moffat" <rocketman_531@msn.com>
To: "'Donald Gillies'" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Tory Werne" <twerne@bellsouth.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Grand Jubile or Grand Record?? (now headbadges..)
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:24:58 -0700
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Tory Werne suggests that the Jubilee headbadge is lined in silver, the Record headbadge is lined in gold...(see full post below)

I have 2 identical mid-seventies Moto Grand Records (black with red, Reynolds 531 frame incl. fork blades, campy dropouts), EXCEPT one has a silver lined headbadge, the other is lined in gold. Never noticed the difference before.

Pat Moffat Tempe, AZUSA Is the plural Motobecanes Grand Record or Motobecane Grand Records? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tory Werne<mailto:twerne@bellsouth.net> To: 'Donald Gillies'<mailto:gillies@cs.ubc.ca> ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org<mailto:classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Cc: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net<mailto:jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> ; frankensaab@earthlink.net<mailto:frankensaab@earthlink.net> ; moschika@hotmail.com<mailto:moschika@hotmail.com> ; Nipponcomet@wmconnect.com<mailto:Nipponcomet@wmconnect.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: RE: [CR]Grand Jubile or Grand Record??

RE: Motobecane Grand Jubile'

Don and list :

RE: As the grand record is/was a campy bike, it should have campagnolo dropouts. As the grand jubilee is/was a huret bike, it should have huret dropouts.

I don't claim to be the authority on all Motobecanes, but I need to step in on this one. I own a Grand Jubile' from 1978 with Campagnolo dropouts.

Also, with minimal web searching you can find a one year off-topic catalog that shows the Grand Jubilee (now spelled with two "e"s) offered in lugless Columbus and Campagnolo Derailleurs, while the Grand Record is no longer offered. I've been watching these for a while trying to answer the questions of this very thread. It would seem the comparisons are vintage specific. I "think" I may have spotted a detail from the 70's machines ... somebody please chime in if they know for sure. It sure looks like the Grand Record received a gold trimmed headbadge, while the Grand Jubile' received the same round badge in silver trim. This is strictly an observation from eBay offered photos, and NOT backed up with catalogs or Grand Record ownership.

Comments / Catalog owners?

Tory Werne Woodstock, Georgia USA ----------------------

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