Re: Re: [CR]Re:MORE of Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over---

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:42:55 -0600 (CST)
From: <smwillis@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Re: [CR]Re:MORE of Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over---
To: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>, Peter Weigle <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


I have heard of them but never seen them. very cool now did they make an over sized tap?
>From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
>Date: 2007/02/14 Wed PM 02:42:44 CST
>To: Peter Weigle <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Re:MORE of Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over---
>
>Peter,
>
>I have one that is marked the same size as yours. I
>thought maybe it was some crazy thread size from the
>70's back when they had a bunch of silly BB threadings
>and everyone looked at bicycles as some kind of
>science that was written by the people on board the
>Starship Enterprise. The guy who sold it to me in San
>Francisco was high at the time and told me it was for
>stripped or loose Italian threads.
>
>Ted Baer
>Palo Alto, CA
>
>
>
>--- Peter Weigle <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Have any of you ever seen the slightly oversized
>> bottom bracket cups? These
>> were sold to help a frame that had loose threads.
>> I have an Italian adjustable cup thats marked 36.5 X
>> 24 f.,,, honest!
>> If this has been discussed before whip me w/ frayed
>> campag gear cables.
>>
>> Peter Weigle
>> Lyme Ct.
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>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. Re: Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983 ? (John
>> Thompson)
>> > 2. WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust Caps (Kyle
>> Robson)
>> > 3. Re:Portacatena (MM(btinternet))
>> > 4. Re:Leather Helmets (MM(btinternet))
>> > 5. Re: Something for the Campytologists to
>> Puzzle over ...
>> > (Kurt Sperry)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:05:06 -0600
>> > From: John Thompson <john@os2.dhs.org>
>> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > Subject: Re: [CR]Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983
>> ?
>> > Message-ID: <45D34142.1070101@os2.dhs.org>
>> > In-Reply-To:
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>> > References:
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>> >
>> > Donald Gillies wrote:
>> >> (which fits with the CR timeline).
>> >>
>> >> I was surprised by an article about Darrel
>> McCulloch and his work for
>> >> the Australian national cycling team. In
>> particular, he stated, "The
>> >> life expectancy for these bikes is 12 months at
>> the maximum" (article
>> >> written June 2006).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://www.llewellynbikes.com/thegallery/Llewellyn-bike-test-in-Ride-magazine/aad?full=1
>> >>
>> >> For any CR members who were sponsored racers in
>> the 1970's and early
>> >> 1980's, what do you think was the life expectancy
>> of your bike ?? Was
>> >> it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years?
>> >>
>> >> What was a typical failure mode - A crash? A
>> tube separating or
>> >> starting to tear? A braze-on that broke-off ??
>> Or is it just that the
>> >> bike looks ragged and - the factory or the
>> sponsor is not set up to do
>> >> repaints ??
>> >
>> > For a professional team, it's because the cost of
>> a new frame every
>> > season is trivial compared to the risk of a
>> failure on an old frame.
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
>> > Appleton WI USA
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:06:45 -0600
>> > From: "Kyle Robson" <kyledr@gmail.com>
>> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > Subject: [CR]WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust
>> Caps
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've got a low flange Campagnolo Record track hub
>> without dust caps,
>> > and I'd like to get some on there. If you have
>> some which would be
>> > compatible, I'm interested. I'm not an expert on
>> this hub, but it is
>> > low flange, probably predates c-record, is
>> engraved with the
>> > Campagnolo logo and below that the word Record.
>> I'd assume dust caps
>> > from other hubs would also work, but I wouldn't
>> know.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Kyle
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:32:32 -0000
>> > From: "MM(btinternet)"
>> <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
>> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> > Subject: [CR]Re:Portacatena
>> > Message-ID:
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>> >
>> > Hi all
>> > I know that there has been a lot of traffic on
>> this subject, but I
>> > thought that I would offer my two pennorth (2
>> Nickells) worth on the
>> > subject. We all know the purpose of the device,
>> and its conception was
>> > good BUT - in Pro road racing (Kneteman, Raas,
>> Kuiper etc) one needed
>> > the confidence that when it comes to the sprint,
>> you could push the gear
>> > lever forward and have confidence that you were on
>> the 13 sprocket and
>> > could GO. Not the case with the Portacatena.
>> Banging the lever forward
>> > for the sprint often shipped the chain onto the
>> Portacatena carrier,
>> > which was not a lot of use in a sprint.
>> > Hence the device was quicly shunned by the TI
>> Raleigh Team.
>> > Mike Mullett
>> > Reading UK
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:48:37 -0000
>> > From: "MM(btinternet)"
>> <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
>> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> > Subject: [CR]Re:Leather Helmets
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > References:
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>> >
>> > Hi All and Ray Green, (missed you at the Pedal
>> Club lunch today)
>> > A follow up on Rays story re Hennie Kuiper winning
>> the worlds at Yvoir in
>> > Belgium 1975 in a "hairnet" crash hat, only it
>> wasn't his.
>> > I was at this Worlds as mechanic to the GB team
>> and Jan Kuiper, manager of
>> > the Dutch team came into the GB pits in a panic at
>> the start as Hennie had
>> > forgotten his helmet, could we help ( Jan Kuiper
>> had become a friend after
>> > managing the Dutch team in many Milk Races). I had
>> my son with me who had
>> > been competing in Belgium and offered him the loan
>> of his crash hat, offer
>> > rapidly accepted.
>> > As we know Hennie won the Pro title that year and
>> I said to my son "forget
>> > the crash hat, we won't get near him at the
>> ceremony".
>> > We headed for the ferry to the UK, and wrote the
>> helmot off.
>> > Two weeks later a parcel arrive addressed to my
>> son containing a thank you
>> > letter from Hennie, a Frisol jersey (his team at
>> the time) an 50 guilders.
>> > Hennie asked could he keep the helmet as he
>> considered it lucky. Quite a
>> > haul for a young 15 year old (now 46) and a
>> measure of the professionalism
>> > of Hennie Kuiper
>> > Mike Mullett
>> > Reading UK
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:48:39 -0800
>> > From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
>> > To: "Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
>> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > Subject: Re: [CR]Something for the Campytologists
>> to Puzzle over ...
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > References:
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>> > Message: 5
>> >
>> > The Ebay link is now dead, but the photo hosting
>> link still works.
>> >
>> > I think I can recall seeing 11 and 22 in a box on
>> Campy arms. Warranty
>> > replacements or something? The little star might
>> just be to keep the
>> > crank
>> > spindle mystery "Z" stamps company.
>> >
>> > Kurt Sperry
>> > Bellingham WA USA
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/13/07, Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=250325&image=34930822&images=34930728,34930700,34930758,34930801,34930822,34930775,34930870,34930947,34930887&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>> >>
>> >> A campagnolo crankset with the following date
>> code :
>> >>
>> >> 172.5 PISTA [32] <fleur-de-lis>
>> >>
>> >> Is this a mythical frank-threaded PISTA crank
>> where time ran backwards
>> >> while they were making the date-mark, which
>> changed from [33] to [32]
>> >> halfway through the stamping process ?? Does
>> this belong in the
>> >> Smithsonian ??
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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