Hello, if you want you can see on ebay:
Original NOS LEGNANO Handle bar from 1950's n.150096268073
Best Regards
ciao
Giorgio Panciroli
Reggio Emilia (Italia)
http://www.info@vintagetransfers.it
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> 1. Re: Correct sizing (Chuck Schmidt)
> 2. Re: Battaglin pronunciation (Raymond Dobbins)
> 3. WTB;Campy Record Skewer Conical Adjuster (Bill Talbot)
> 4. Re: Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?
> 5. what rims should I use? (Anthony Bier)
> 6. Re: Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?- Con Denti!
> 7. Foil Decals for my '72 Pogliaghi (Thomas Dusky)
> 8. Re: Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?- Con Denti!
> (Chuck Schmidt)
> 9. That Ebay Battaglin (Derek Willburn)
> 10. Re: Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds? (Robert Clair)
> 11. Re: 128 OLN on 140 length axle ?,and rims. (ternst)
> 12. FOR SALE 68 PAIR CICLOLINEA WORLD CHAMPION BAR PLUG..NOS
> 13. RE: Ray's wierd bit on ebay and WLTB Huret (neil foddering)
> 14. re: Component conundrum (Marty Eison)
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:52:26 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Correct sizing
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> Here's an old CR posting from 2001 that addresses the fist full of
> seatpost and the two Campagnolo 130mm and 180mm seat posts lengths:
>
> ===========================================================
> Subject: [CR]Campagnolo 130mm seat post Was: Thoughts on frame size
> and saddle
>
> Pete Geurds wrote:
> >
> > Campagnolo seatposts used to come in 130mm and 180mm lengths.
> > I'm pretty sure I could not have used a 130mm post on my 25.5"
> Raleighs!
> > When I saw that in the catalog I wondered who was using them.
>
> Here's my explanation:
> The Campagnolo 130mm micro-adjust Record seat post came out in 1956
> before the advent of plastic saddles. Leather saddles like the Brooks
> B.17 have very tall frames measuring 70mm from the rails to the top of
> the saddle in the middle. Plastic saddles (intro'd around 1960)
> typically measure 45mm or so from the rails to top of the saddle.
>
> If you add 130mm for the short seatpost to the 70mm for the leather
> saddle you get a total of 200mm. If you add 180mm for the long seatpost
> to the 45mm for the plastic saddle you get a total of 225mm, only 25mm
> (roughly one inch) taller.
>
> One reason the frame you rode in 1950 measured larger than the frame you
> rode in 1985 (before the current mt. bike seat post craze) would be the
> low bottom bracket and slack seat tube angle that would increase the
> seat tube dimension. The stand-over height of the top tube would be the
> same for the 1950 bike and the 1985 bike, but the BB would be closer to
> the ground, hence the "larger" 1950 frame.
> ===========================================================
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA USA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:02:26 -0800 (PST)
> From: Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com>
> To: The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>,
> CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Battaglin pronunciation
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> Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Steven on this one.
>
> Time for a refresher course for me.
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
> The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ray attempted valiantly to explain the proper pronunciation of Battaglin
> when he wrote:
>
> "The closest correct pronunciation is "battayeen" but with a hard "y" -
> which I know makes no sense. Try to think of it as a very soft "j",
> almost as soft as a "sh" sound. Somewhere beween "jean" and "sheen."
> It's that funky "gl" sound you'll learn about when you start your
> Italian classes. I took a semester of Italian in college and I
> certainly don't
> regret it."
>
> For most English speakers the easiest way to describe the pronunciation
> would be:
>
> Bat-ta-lyeen with three syllabels.
>
> In Italian the letter G has different pronunciation in accordance with
> which vowel it is followed by. When followed by a or o or u it is a 'g'
> similar to the most common use in English. When followed immediately by
> e or i, it could be described as almost a 'dj' sound (close to how you
> would pronounce a 'j' in English words). You can however modify the
> pronunciation by adding an 'h' between g and e or i if you want to make
> it into a hard sound. Hence spaghetti; or by adding an 'n' or 'l',
> always between the g and the e and i which results in a 'ny' or 'ly'
> sound.
>
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> USA
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:09:53 +0800
> From: "Bill Talbot" <bulldogsrule@graffiti.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB;Campy Record Skewer Conical Adjuster
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> CR'ers
>
> Anyone got an orphan Campy Record Quick Release Conical Adjuster (#59) in
> o
> ne of their parts bins?
>
> Please contact me off list,
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bill Talbot
> New Hartford, CT USA
>
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:39:58 +0000
> From: greytaylor@att.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?
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> Sometime back in the 80's I accompanied a friend to a private residence
> that had a truck shell for sale that he was interested in. While my
> friend and the shell owner were talking I glanced into the garage and saw
> a road frame with all Campy NR parts, sew-ups, and Reynolds 531 DB
> stickers. I'd never heard of the brand but I knew enough to realize that
> this was a very good bike. I asked the owner if the bike was for sale and
> ended up getting it for $180. My level of income at the time didn't
> really support that kind of purchase but it was something I couldn't pass
> up.
> That Haral became my daily commuter and weekend friend for many years. I
> still have it and only very recently saw another like it on the Campy Only
> web site. According to the pictures and story on the Campy Only site,
> only about a dozen Harals came into the US.
>
> As an aside, I saw a pair of NR track pedals at a swap meet one weekend.
> The owner only wanted $5 for them. I handed him the bill but he seemed
> hesitant about handing me the pedals. Finally, he put them into my hands
> and then grabbed my hands over them. Looking intently into my eyes he
> said, "Dude... these have been really good to me... give them a good
> home!" I assured him that I would and I know exactly how he felt.
>
> Guy Taylor, Anaheim CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:18:57 -0500
> From: "Anthony Bier" <scratcheduprecord@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]what rims should I use?
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>
> I am getting my 1981 Marinoni Pista special back to period correct (or
> relatively close)... I have high flange record track hubs and need to lace
> them up to a set of tubulars. I have 2 sets of rims... ambrosio Montreal
> hard grey annodised and Mavic GP4 again annodised grey, the ambrosios are
> NOS and the GP4s are handly used with virtually no signs of brakeing on
> the rims. Which is the lighter rim? I don't have a suitable scale, they
> are both 36H... one set is for the track and the other will be laced to
> low flange record hubs for road use. Your thoughts? I was born the year my
> Marinoni was made so I need a little info.
>
> Thanks
>
> Anthony Bier
>
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:49:02 +0000
> From: hersefan@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?- Con Denti!
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> At a swap meet once...
>
> Years ago I walk into a swap meet and the first thing I see is a pair of
> Campy Con Denti pedals with a big price tag of $5 on them. I simply hand
> over my $5 and the seller seemed perfectly happy.
>
> I never felt right about it - and years later I had some other dealings
> with the gentleman when I owned my shop. He brought a bike in one day
> that I was interested in - but he wanted about $150 to $200 more than I
> figured it should be worth. But I just handed over the money - and in my
> mind the order of the world was restored.
>
> Similary, a number of years ago I bought a bike that was outside my
> "knowledge" zone and I probably overpaid by about $300 ( I took a huge
> loss on it when I sold it). Years later I see a gorgeous Legnano at
> Veloswap during set up with nobody around. So rather than go hunting for
> other treasures I just cooled my jets and waited for someone to show up
> figuring that nothing I would find elsewhere would be as cool (bike had
> the rare Campagnolo Brooks saddle and the cool Campy front with the screws
> at the pivots). As luck would have it, the seller was the person who sold
> me the bike I overpaid on years ago - I asked him how much he wanted - and
> I pointed out some damage he had missed on the Legnano, and we happily
> settled on a price that was probably about $300 too low.
>
> Once again, everyone was happy and order of the Universe was restored.
>
> What goes around comes around...
>
> Mike Kone in Boulder CO
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: greytaylor@att.net
>
>> Sometime back in the 80's I accompanied a friend to a private residence
>> that had
>> a truck shell for sale that he was interested in. While my friend and the
>> shell
>> owner were talking I glanced into the garage and saw a road frame with
>> all Campy
>> NR parts, sew-ups, and Reynolds 531 DB stickers. I'd never heard of the
>> brand
>> but I knew enough to realize that this was a very good bike. I asked the
>> owner
>> if the bike was for sale and ended up getting it for $180. My level of
>> income
>> at the time didn't really support that kind of purchase but it was
>> something I
>> couldn't pass up.
>> That Haral became my daily commuter and weekend friend for many years. I
>> still
>> have it and only very recently saw another like it on the Campy Only web
>> site.
>> According to the pictures and story on the Campy Only site, only about a
>> dozen
>> Harals came into the US.
>>
>> As an aside, I saw a pair of NR track pedals at a swap meet one weekend.
>> The
>> owner only wanted $5 for them. I handed him the bill but he seemed
>> hesitant
>> about handing me the pedals. Finally, he put them into my hands and then
>> grabbed my hands over them. Looking intently into my eyes he said,
>> "Dude...
>> these have been really good to me... give them a good home!" I assured
>> him that
>> I would and I know exactly how he felt.
>>
>> Guy Taylor, Anaheim CA
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:18:02 -0500
> From: Thomas Dusky <tdusky@comcast.net>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Foil Decals for my '72 Pogliaghi
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> Hello
> A few years ago a made a post asking for information on foil
> Pogliaghi decals for my '72 (or so I was informed when I bought on
> eBay from the original owner) Serial #9641.
> A member had restored theirs and told me where I could get them. I
> lost that information and would like to know where I can buy them.
> I plan on having it painted locally, and I want to keep the decals
> correct. They are the same as Ed Litton's on the CR site.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Tom Dusky
> Huntington Woods MI
> USA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:47:02 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?- Con Denti!
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> Mike Kone wrote:
>
>> At a swap meet once...
>> Years ago I walk into a swap meet and the first thing I see is a
>> pair of Campy Con Denti pedals with a big price tag of $5 on them.
>> I simply hand over my $5 and the seller seemed perfectly happy. (cut)
>
>
> I've got a "con denti" story too!
>
> I made a deal to buy a Made in Milano '72 Masi G.C. off of
> rec.bicycles.marketplace newsgroup (many years ago) from a guy in San
> Francisco. Drove up to SF the next morning to give him the money and
> get the bike. When I arrived he asked me what the deal was with a
> Masi G.C. because his phone was ringing off the hook with offers much
> higher than our agreed upon price (twice what he paid for the bike
> new). Before he told me their names I named them for him off the top
> of my head ("round up the usual suspects"). He was an honorable guy
> and honored our deal. While I was putting the bike in the back of my
> car he said he had some parts that he didn't have any use for which
> included some 165mm Campagnolo cranks with one con denti track pedal
> permanently stuck in the crank and the matching one loose. They were
> barely ridden because they were off his wife's bike and (after I
> removed the offending pedal) were perfect, years later, for my
> restored '63 Masi Special!
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA USA
> http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:10:05 -0800 (PST)
> From: Derek Willburn <morganx9@yahoo.com>
> To: VintageBikes <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]That Ebay Battaglin
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> http://ebay.com/
>
> I noticed that the seat tube has Tour and Giro
> stripes, Stephen Roche won the Giro and Tour both in
> 1987 on Battaglins -if I remember that right. I
> checked Giovanni Battaglin's history and he won the
> Giro in 1980 but never the Tour de France. I'm
> guessing it's a 1988 or later road frame. A TT "funny"
> bike would have a shorter head tube but maybe they
> made some TTs with 700c fronts.
>
> Wish it were my size, I could ride it home.
>
> Ciao,
> Derek Willburn
> Long Beach, CA USA
>
>
>
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>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:09:01 -0600
> From: "Robert Clair" <r.clair@cox.net>
> To: <hersefan@comcast.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]Dumpster/Yard Sale/Thrift Store Finds?
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> ... what to make of the obverse of this equation then?
> recently paid what anyone on this list would consider in their right mind
> way, way too much for a few bit's of plastic and pot metal, well bicycle
> related bits all the same.
> ... too me it was a bargain, i knew the dear seller, and i knew they could
> use the dosh.
> ... one can pluck the red rose from the manure pile i guess and be done
> with
> it. however this was my third cultivation so to speak, the third (and
> final) purchase of these bits over some several years. to complete the
> peloton so to speak.
> ... although we may or may not ever deal with this person again (but we
> still do) sometimes the obverse of the coin yeilds the better result over
> time.
> ... anyway neat story of your own mikie! sounds like you know how the
> "roses" grow ...
>
> r clair
> alexandria, va
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:27:49 -0800
> From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
> To: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR]128 OLN on 140 length axle ?,and rims.
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> I 'd like to add a few lines in response to some of answeres to my
> respective posts.
> If you look at your QR ends, you will note that they are somewhat cupped
> or
> relieved at each dome where they compress against the frame.
> If your spindle only comes through a whisker and the domes don't bottom
> against the axle and the pressure is on the dropout holding your wheel in
> place, you are just fine.
> If only a mm or so is in the dropout then the support may be compromised.
> That's why Campagnolo was in the drivers seat so long. They were the only
> ones that had a complete gruppo and because their quality control was so
> good, everything was interchangeable and all the spare parts were made and
> stocked.
> Almost all the teams used Campy and because the dropouts were consistently
> thick, any team could help each other out on breakaways and usually the
> QR
> adjustment wouldn't even have to be adjusted. It was slap the wheel in,
> tighten up the QR, and away the rider went.
> How many times have we seen recently where the "mechanic" was playing
> around
> trying to get the wheel in properly while the rider was frustrated while
> losing time as he watched the "mechanics" antics.
> That's where cluster spacing, chainlines, etc. when standardised made the
> race look molto profesionale.
> On the rim Q, bear in mind that my comments are general regarding the
> weights.
> Some people walk hard, wearing their shoes out
> Some big guys are so light on their feet that one doesn't hear them, ie.
> dancing.
> Some small light guys sound like they're clogging while waltzing.
> Some people ride the clutch when driving.
> It's the same on a bike.
> Everyone rides differently. Some big bruisers ride lightly on the bike,
> some
> small guys clunk around and drive every bump into the wheels and frame.
> So, depending where you fall in that spectrum, you can ride lighter or
> heavier rims with the same success.
> Choose what works for you, it may take a few rides to dial it in once you
> become aware, tune in, and listen to your bodies and riding styles.
> That's another reason to have a good position on your bike.
> Remember, you are not ON your bike, you are supposed to be IN your bike
> and
> flow with with it.
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates
> CA USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
> To: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]128 OLN on 140 length axle ?
>
>
>> And if it's a mm too long it still won't bottom out.
>> If you don't like it grind or file the SOB off and get on with it.
>> What in hell do you think the master team mechanics would do at a race at
>> 2:00 AM getting the bikes ready for the next stage?
>> They'd take a GD meat cleaver to it if they had to.
>> Ted Ernst
>> Palos Verdes Estates
>> CA 90274
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
>> To: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CR]128 OLN on 140 length axle ?
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, no sign off
>>> Ted Ernst
>>> Palos Verdes Estates
>>> CA 90274
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
>>> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CR]128 OLN on 140 length axle ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's only too long if the QR bottoms out on axle when you tighten it so
>>>> the tension is compromised.
>>>> Best is when axle is within 1mm or flush with dropout on outside.
>>>> Got It? Good! The rest is, well, fill in your own blanks.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "r cielec" <teaat4p@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 8:33 PM
>>>> Subject: [CR]128 OLN on 140 length axle ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ahoy !
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject line about says it.
>>>>> Can 128OLN be built on an axle 140 long? Campag drop-outs.
>>>>> Conventional wisdom says OLN + 11 = recommended axle lenght - 139.
>>>>> Is 140 too long ?
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> Richard Cielec
>>>>> Chicago, Illinois
>>>>>
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:08:51 EST
> From: Rnitro1969@aol.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]FOR SALE 68 PAIR CICLOLINEA WORLD CHAMPION BAR PLUG..NOS
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> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:30:11 +0000
> From: "neil foddering" <neilfoddering@hotmail.com>
> To: mark@lentran.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Ray's wierd bit on ebay and WLTB Huret
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>
> I made a similar suggestion to Ray, in that I thought it might perform the
> same function as the "gadget" supplied by Constrictor to make the setting
> up
> of the Super Champion Osgear striking fork derailleur easier.
>
> The gadget was clamped to the end of the dreailleur cable, and used to
> take
> up tension on the cable against the spring pressure, until the striking
> fork
> was in the correct alignment, at which time, the cable pinch bolt could be
> tightened.
>
> Without the gadget, the pinch bolt has to be tightened in various
> positions
> on the cable on a hit-and-miss basis until the striking fork was aligned
> correctly, resulting in a mangled cable. The gadget not only avoided this
> problem, it enabled adjustment to be more finely-tuned.
>
> The gadget could be either removed or left in situ after set-up was
> completed.
>
> You can see a scan of the Super Simplex from the 1936 catalogue, and a
> scan
> of the Constrictor gadget from the V-CC sturdy guide compiled by Gordon
> Selby on:
>
> http://smg.photobucket.com/
>
> I just missed a Super Simplex last year from a V-CC member. He had given
> it
> to a friend to sell at a cycle jumble on his behalf, and it had sold
> before
> he could contact his friend to get it for me. At least it went to a good
> home - Hilary bought it! I had the opportunity to examine it on a visit
> to
> Hilary's house, and the quality of manufacture looked similar to the SC.
>
> I'm not sure about the effectiveness of the parallellogram design though:
> surely it would make the chain MORE likely to rub, since the chain is at
> an
> angle as it moves across the sprockets, and surely needs a fork which
> moves
> in an arc to correspond, as far as possible, with that angle? If the
> Simplex fork retains its front-rear alignmment while the chain is moving
> across the sprockets at an increasing angle, then surely, there's more
> chance of the chain rubbing?
>
> Super Champion sold and incorporated Nivex components into some of their
> own
> products, including the jockey wheel on some SC tension arms.
>
>
> Neil Foddering
> Weymouth, Dorset, England
>
>
>
>>From: "Mark Stevens" <mark@lentran.com>
>>To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>>Subject: [CR]Ray's wierd bit on ebay and WLTB Huret
>>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:20:44 -0000
>>
>>Ray has asked if anyone can identify the Simplex gizmo - 280087096093 - My
>>humble suggestion is that is for tensioning the cable on Simplex's change
>>fork derailleur. I have a tension arm - no jockey or pivot/spring and a
>>lever and quadrant but no change fork assembly. It works much like an
>>Osgear as far as I can tell. does anyone have any ''Gen'' or pics of this
>>derailleur? I also have atension arm marked 'Nivex', again no more parts
>>or
>>info. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with bits to match.
>> Also looking for a Huret Louison Bobet rear derailleur to fit a 1955
>>A.S.Gillott with twin cable stops.
>> Mark Stevens Evanton Scotland
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> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:52:35 -0600
> From: "Marty Eison" <meison01@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]re: Component conundrum
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> Tom,
>
> The bike has been repainted it is not original no matter how good a paint
> job, put whatever you want on it. The original gruppo if it's only
> shopworn,
> or a mint group if you want to keep it in newly restored
> condition.
>
> Marty Eison
> Frisco, Texas
>
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