Thanks to all who have replied, I will look over here first as it's easier re posting etc. I now know that it is definately different from the TA one so I will get a correct Stronglight one(hopefully). Some of the local frame builders don't even have one they use a TA one! the others that do won't sell it but I can get them taken off for a fiver but to be honest I'd rather have the tool for future needs.
Steve Chambers
Chesterfield
Derbyshire
England