Re: [CR]Re: re: respray costs.

(Example: Framebuilding:Tubing)

Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David Patrick" <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: re: respray costs.
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <9406334.1176831374100.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


Well, that said, the CR archives would be full of this info, as this topic has been beaten to death on several occassions by the CR list. Just a thought....

Dave Patrick Chelsea, Michigan

Guy Apple <cinelliguy@earthlink.net> wrote: To all,

It would be great to just get the following information and no other stray commentary:

Name of business Address Telephone email Web address What they do Average no frills respray cost Turn around time Comments on personal experience with the operation

That would be useful information.

Thanks Guy Apple Sunnyvale CA USA

-----Original Message-----

>From: joebz@optonline.net

>Sent: Apr 17, 2007 9:29 AM

>To: Emanuel Lowi

>Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>Subject: Re: [CR]Re: re: respray costs.

>

>Emanual,

>

>Please limit self indulgent rants. No one on the list cares to read this tripe.

>

>Joseph Bender-Zanoni

>Great Notch, NJ

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: Emanuel Lowi

>Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:15 am

>Subject: [CR]Re: re: respray costs.

>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>

>> Peter Naiman wrote:

>> >

>> > Charles; I've heard of Mario's work when searching for

>> > renovations for my bikes before they come to the U.S.

>> > Work in the U.K. is substantially less, but then you deal

>> > with shipping costs, but since I purchase most Hetchins

>> > from the UK, I have the work done in the U.K. My 38 Anglo

>> > Continental had chrome work done on the front fork, plus

>> > rear stays, with a two colour scheme with full boxlining

>> > and transfer application at a total cost of under $600.

>> > For the same work over here, it would have been atleast

>> > $1000 or more. Not sure why the difference in costs, but

>> > labor in the UK may be substantially less, shops may not

>> > have to deal with as much government regulation etc, and

>> > other factors.

>> >

>> > As for Mario Vaz, I've heard varying reports from

>> > excellent work to fair at best, but everyones

>> > expectations can be differ. My understanding is that his

>> > work is very inexpensive. Mario may work at very low

>> > overhead but make it up in large volume. Even though his

>> > prices are very low, if he owns his building or his rent

>> > is cheap, and other overhead is very low, he may be

>> > perfectly content to charge his current rates.

>> >

>> > As for rates charges in the U.S., each shops overhead

>> > costs differ, with location and other factors affecting

>> > overhead costs. In general I've found the prices in CA

>> > much higher than shops in the Midwest, but I'm also

>> > assuming that operating in CA is probably much more than

>> > in Ohio with rent most likely the biggest factor, but

>> > labor is probably higher on the Coast than most midwest

>> > areas.

>> >

>>

>> Addendum to Peter's post (and confirming his experience):

>>

>> USA'ians factor in ridiculous health care & education

>> costs, plus (unwittingly) huge costs of justice & bulging

>> prison systems, environmental protection regimes (a good

>> thing) and the ongoing price of far-flung wars in far-off

>> lands.

>>

>> Do not kid thyselves: these things add to the price of

>> vintage bicycle restorations. There is no free lunch.

>>

>> Excellent American paint job = nearly cost of a whole frame

>> UK-side now.

>>

>> Some day soon we may all be ordering fully chromed fancy

>> lugged butted steel custom frames from China @ $200 each,

>> by the dozen.

>>

>> Emanuel Lowi

>> Montreal, Canada (neither USA nor UK, thank G.)

>>

>>

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