RE: AW: [CR]Why is there no German threading - AND A Place to Find Bike History Documentation

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Subject: RE: AW: [CR]Why is there no German threading - AND A Place to Find Bike History Documentation
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:35:31 -0600
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Thread-Topic: AW: [CR]Why is there no German threading - AND A Place to Find Bike History Documentation
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From: "Mazzeo, Daniel" <Daniel.Mazzeo@usap.gov>
To: <dave@pelletizer.com>, <martin@team-ware.de>
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Group - hopefully this is related and perhaps of use to someone. In my senior year at college, 1974, I wrote a paper for an air pollution control course on the bicycle. I was so into the subject that it damn near turned into a book. Amazingly the professor commuted to class on a bicycle, as did I, and he was very supportive of the project. I used the school library stacks to research bike inventions from about 1880 to 1900 and found incredible stuff in early "Scientific American" magazines kept on 'fiche in the library. Virtually every invention of the time related to bicycles was catalogued as a patent request or other, plus the advertisements of bikes for sale were beautiful hand done lithographs etc. Colonel Pope's factory was illustrated in one issue and I used the pictures as illustrations in my paper. I did get the highest grade in the class for it. Still have a copy of it on the shelves too. Thanks Dan Mazzeo Morrison, CO

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of David Toppin Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:32 AM To: martin@team-ware.de Cc: 'Classic Rendevous' Subject: RE: AW: [CR]Why is there no German threading?

The Germans weren't really there at the beginning (1880's) of the era, Pope, Overman, Spalding, Gormully & Jeffrey . Of course Baron von Drais is credited with the invention of the hobby horse, and he was German. Some believe there were others before him because his machine seems to be too refined to be the first...

Schwinn wasn't around until 1895 when the bicycle industry was in full swing. That was the heyday.

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-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Martin Appel Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:07 AM To: Sheldon Brown Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; marcus.e.helman@gm.com Subject: Re: AW: [CR]Why is there no German threading?

Sheldon Brown schrieb:
> Michael Schmid schreib:
>
>> My two cents here:
>> I think the german bicycle industry was at least as big as the
>> english
>
> Not so sure about that, because the English bicycle industry had a
> very large export market, while the German industry was mainly geared
> to the domestic market.
>
>> and probably bigger than the american inudstry
>
> Quite possibly. It's interesting to note that the early U.S. industry
> was VERY heavily influenced by German immigrants. I'll just mention
> the names "Schwinn" and "Wald" but there are others that I can't
> recall from the early part of the 20th century.

A maybe interesting sidenote; i own a book written by young german Heinrich Horstmann who rode around the world on a bicycle in 1895. When he returned from that juorney he started importing US made "Crescent" bicycles to germany...

Martin Appel Munich, Germany

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