Re: [CR]Wacky photographing idea...

(Example: Racing)

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:17:38 -0700
From: "Tam Pham" <terminaut@gmail.com>
To: "Huemax@aol.com" <Huemax@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Wacky photographing idea...
In-Reply-To: <c6c.10d48ee1.336fde92@aol.com>
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cc: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hi Ken,

On 5/6/07, Huemax@aol.com <Huemax@aol.com> wrote:
>Your lighting is super! The light inside pool is reflecting all around as if they are
>glowing from wall to floor, I have never seen this lighing technique.
>
>I saw your chrome Paramunt Pista, on its reflection, I see blue sky as main light source.
>you have what photographer call "OPEN SHADE" in the white semless background.

It's purely dumb-luck that I thought to take my bike photos in there. I know very, very little about photography or how to use a camera. The pool happens to be a curvey kidney-shaped "bowl" that's lined with bright white fiberglass. When the sun is directly overhead there is so much ambient glare inside the empty pool that's it's hard look at. When the sun is at an angle to the pool though, the "open shade" in the pool is very nice and gives a very even, shadow-free environment if you're situated at the correct place.
>There is a darklblack reflection on the right side of handle bar as you shot from
>straight front, perhaps yourself? Did you wear a dark outfit?
>
>If you can cover overhead with thin white material, you will have a perfect lighting TENT!

When I was setting up the bike I didn't give any thought to reflections so it is probably the nearby trees causing the what you see. It would be very easy for me to suspend a thin white covering over the photography area so I will likely try do that next time. I was also wearing darker clothing and now realize that I can be seen in some of the reflections. With an all-chrome bike I will have to make sure to use a small tripod next time. All of the recent photos were taken without a tripod.
>Getting away from LIHTING, let us talk about the PERSPECATVE-DESTORTION, as you
>got idea to use "TELE" setting or long distant shot, your front and rear wheels become
>less diffrence in thier size. Also, if you look how the angles of shaft of axiles, they
>shall more same angle and pararell, but if you use "short" wideangle seting, they will
>be tweisted and become different angle. But if you use extreme long lens in long-
>long distant, you will be careful, the bike shoyt 45-60' angle become so short, and
>wheels are narrow ZERO shape, this we call overcompression of "tele perspective"
>effect. Thus, you do have to see and judge hte "TELE" setting, sometimes NOT TOO
>long (means the longest setting might to be too long..)

This distortion information is something I feel very valuable to have learned. In some of my previous photos my brain sensed that there was something odd about the way the bikes looked but I never thought it to be lens distortion as I hadn't realized that distortion occurs even without using a wide-angle lens (where it's very obvious).
>Enjoyed your MASI and Paramount track bikes, details are particularly good.
>And thank you again for sharing the images!
>
>KEN TODA, High Point, NC Thanks again for all the useful tips. I also glossed over the CR archives to read up on bike-photography tips you've previously posted as it's very rewarding to get some shots that I can use as wallpaper for computer. :-) I have other bikes that I will need to get photos of and will post them as available.

Best,
Tam Pham
Huntington Beach, CA - USA