George,
There are a number of things I could take exception to in your
responce, but I don't come here to argue with people or try to change
your opinion of the bike you are clearly proud to own and have a lot
of respect for. Therefore, I'll pass on going back and forth debating
the issues. I've said what I wanted to say and presented the
principals that I apply to looking at bikes and their appearance,
construction, design, and function.
On this forum everyone is welcome to see bikes from any perspective
they choose, and the wise do not judge how or what others hold dear,
past a point. I said it in my previous post, I don't think any less of
anyone who has opinions that differ from my own. I am aware that
people generally become part of the bike they own, and criticism is
often taken personally. Out of respect for this and for everyone on
this list, my further opinions on this issue will remain personal.
Thanks for shareing your opinions and perspective with us. No harm, no
foul on this end. We're all here to have a good time and learn
something in the process. That works for me.
Brian Baylis
La Mesa, CA
Mr. Baylis's comments on the Cinelli Laser are interesting and could
be enlarged, for example eel (?) skin saddle and handlebar wrap, silk
tires, Roval wheels, clipless pedals, etc. These are all exotic and
very impractical features. But, respectfully, he's missing the point at least as far as the
early, low numbered Lasers, such as 007 are concerned. They were
prototype show bikes, perhaps analogous to the prototypes seen at car
and motorcycle shows. Could they have been improved,of course! But
more important, as Dale said they "knocked everyones' socks off," and
continue to do so even today. With his previous statements about the function of aero tubing in TT
bikes, I respectfully disagree. Again to paraphrase Dale, frame
weight isn't as important in a TT bike, and, just have a look at the
high end TT bikes of today, they almost all have an aero design. I also suspect, as Mr. Baylis, that there were previous aero design
bikes. I'd like to see images of them. I also believe that there is a
reason why those bikes didn't have the impact the Laser had and
continues to have. George Hollenberg MD CT, USA
George Hollenberg MD
CT, USA