Re: [CR]On Zeus chainsets, french threaded (Zeus vs Campy)

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From: "Scott Edrington" <scott@edrington.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 04:08:31 +0000
Subject: Re: [CR]On Zeus chainsets, french threaded (Zeus vs Campy)


I agree with Jerry but have a couple questions to ask the anti-Zeus folks :-) When was the last time you saw a Campy Competicion (spelling is correct) frame or a Campy 2000 frame? Who did Zeus copy here? Also those who claim Zeus made junk - Are Zeus Alfa parts copies of Campy Valentino parts? Nothing against Campy; I own bikes sporting hardware from both manufactur es. Regards, Scott Edrington San Diego CA

-----Original Message----- From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos [mailto:jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 06:31 PM To: haxixe@gmail.com Cc: tom.ward@juno.com Subject: Re: [CR]On Zeus chainsets, french threaded

Well, my point is everyone copied everyone, but I think Zeus had an alloy -cogged FW before Campy. And Campy should have copied the Zeus 2000 grupp o. Zeus's use of Ti was inspired, Campy's was idiotic.

To me a crankset bolt circle is a pretty basic standard. Zeus was 120 mm and would take a 38T (and probably a 36T) ring. Campy was 151mm/45T, then 144mm/42T (OK 41T). Clone? What clone?

Regard,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Kurt Sperry <haxixe@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/11/07, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Firs t of all, in my opinion Zeus was never a maker of Campy clones. The fact is all the European manufacturers, including Campy, were influenced by ea ch others products. Zeus no more copied Campy than Campy copied Zeus or S implex or Huret. This image of the all-powerful Campy copied by everyone else is just a baseless delusion. My recollection is the exact opposite, that Zeus was first and foremost a builder of shameless, almost exact copies of existing Campagnolo product s, frequently right down to parts interchangability. Granted they did oth er things as well, but that's not really what they were known for in the day is it?

Where exactly did Campagnolo copy Zeus?

Kurt Sperry
Bellingham WA
USA