I certainly agree . Though Paramount was concidered top ,lesser models would drop below the second level except for some Japanese built bikes which might squeek into the second. A very different list would be one of emotional or perceived value.While another group without clear definition would be small builders not only here in the US but everywhere.
BOB FREITAS
low fog in MILL VALLEY CA USA my SB is disguised as a Technium so its value is probably 1/2 or 1/3 a TEAM bike in proper racing colors.
Dr. Paul Williams wrote:
> Not easy though - where does one fit the Raleigh Ilkeston SB workshop
> handbuilt bikes - hardly mass-produced factory bikes? My frameset from
> the latter establishment is worlds apart from the Grand Prix I had as
> a teenager!
>
> Paul Williams,
> Ottawa, ON, Canada
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Freitas" <freitas1@pacbell.net>
> To: "claSSIC RENDEZVOUS" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:42 PM
> Subject: [CR]re: SEcond tier bikes
>
>
>> I guess I interpret this differently
>> First level Cinelli, Masi ,Colnago,
>> Hetchins,Jack Taylor ,Paramount , Eisentraut
>> etc...................low volume custom builders
>> second level mass built pro type bikes
>> ATALA ,Bottechia ,Raleigh etc...............bikes that feature top
>> components but are production type bikes
>>
>>
>> BOB FREITAS
>> who was able to stand under a 1957
>> FERRARI TESTA ROSA V12 today and marvel at the poor welding
>> MILL
>> VALLEY, CA USA