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Spinning wheels DVDs I will sell all I have for $5.00 each, postage included. send a Five Buck Bill ( along with a 50s vintage Cinelli frame NO bondo) to John Crump.6204 Northstar Ridge Lane,Parker Co80134 USA

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 53, Issue 84 SPINNING WHEELS Brit DVD 2. Happy in the land of 2nd tier bikes (Howard Darr) 3. Re: Re: doing it wrong? (Alan Lloyd) 4. WTB Top Nut for older Italian threaded Stronglight Head Set (Tom Sanders) 5. WTB Campy Wheel Dishing Tool (Glenn Benveniste) 6. Ebay outting - 1960 Cinelli (lennys_email@juno.com) 7. Thomas Stevens - Correction (David Toppin) 8. Re Campagnolo SR BB nuts update (Wayne Davidson) 9. re: Italvega (Robert Schenker) 10. Re: re: Italvega 11. FS Black Paramount water bottle cages, new in the package (Tom Sanders) 12. re: Italvega (Jerry Prigmore)

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:42:20 EDT From: Crumpy6204@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 53, Issue 84 SPINNING WHEELS Brit DVD Message-ID: <bc8.133b751c.337da7ac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1

I do have 8 copies of "Spinning Wheels" for sale now. Documentary on Bit and TDF footage in the 40s and 50s real neat stuff, see Eileen Sheridans bike up close. Email me if you are interested in a copy, Cheers John Crump OldintheracesBrit. Parker, Co USA. PS I will gone until Tuesday 5/22/07

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:20:04 -0400 From: "Howard Darr" <hdarr@localnet.com> To: "CR discussion list" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Happy in the land of 2nd tier bikes Message-ID: <001001c79886$17abe790$aa229942@D1S2F761> References: <207480.60135.qm@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain;format=flowed;charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2

Greetings,

!976 Serotta Club series. Did not have racing geometry and lugs were not as thinned as much. $100 less. Second tier? Yes, as far price and finish work but it remains the finest all around frame I have ridden. It races, first with Dura Ace and later full Campagnolo and yet is comfortable for all day loaded touring. TA Triple, Shimano Suntour and Huret Rear Rack. Panneirs and fenders.

Early 70's Zeus. The bottom bracket is interesting. The chainstay tubes as well as the seat tube and down tube are nicely mitered yet left a heavy seam on the outside. Affordable racing bike from the box.

Production Ross Signiture that got a best buy from consumer reports in the day. In its defense it is a great all around bike. Bought it for $4 at a yard sale. Threw away all parts and installed a mix of on and off topic shimano parts.

Raleigh Touring 18 Rough stuff geometry and now sports Suntour alpine gearing. 14X38 and 30X42X46 Factory front and rear racks. Cantilever brakes and nitto Moustache handlebars. WHOOPPEEE

Bottecchia not in the category of MASI but I really like it.

Maserati bike boomer Butlers Model set up as a single speed.

Cannondale at the edge of cutoff. Has to be the most fun push on the pedals watch it squirt bike alive. Come home after a long ride know your alive by the hand and shoulder pain.

After consideration I realized something, all of my bikes would be considered second tier or worse. Yet I am very happy.

If a first tier vintage bike came my way I would be tickled. But to be honest the First tier bike in my can't afford it but WOW would I be thilled is a Bruce Gordon Lugged Tourer with custom racks and all the bits on his web page.

Howard Darr Clymer PA USA

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 06:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Lloyd <adl2k@yahoo.com> To: Emanuel Lowi <lowiemanuel@yahoo.ca> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Re: doing it wrong? Message-ID: <242352.58165.qm@web52612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODFeh38pRXM00002e1e@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 3

I've read that the rotation of the tape-wrap is a compromise if you don't reverse direction at the brake-levers, unless you adopt the methid described at the end of this article: http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=71

Alan Lloyd (Schaumburg, Illinois, USA)

Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:42:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Emanuel Lowi <lowiemanuel@yahoo.ca> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Re: doing it wrong?

Could somebody please start a discussion of whether one turns the tape clockwise or counterclockwise when wrapping handlebars, and whether either direction works better on the upper part of the bars vs. the lower?

Oop, I think I just started that discussion. Any takers?

Emanuel Lowi Montreal, Quebec ------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:20:39 -0400 From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]WTB Top Nut for older Italian threaded Stronglight Head Set Message-ID: <002501c79896$ee0cc880$ff48ff44@ts> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4

Subject line says it all, I guess...need not be mint. Thanks all, Tom Sanders Lansing, Mi USA

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:07 -0700 From: "Glenn Benveniste" <swfish1@cox.net> To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]WTB Campy Wheel Dishing Tool Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAMzsaaaDE/UWZcsyIpvVd/8KAA AAQAAAA/Ui//kqJz0CZVM07dyDMbgEAAAAA@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5

Any one have one of these that they can part with?

Thanks Much,

Glenn Benveniste

Oceanside, CA

Cell: (760) 579-1147

<mailto:swfish1@cox.net> swfish1@cox.net

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:29:53 GMT From: "lennys_email@juno.com" <lennys_email@juno.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Ebay outting - 1960 Cinelli Message-ID: <20070517.082958.5614.3130577@webmail02.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6

greetings all,

for your viewing pleeasure, a really sweet old Cinelli (not

mine, 'cause if i had a bike like that, no way i'd sell it) - item

no. 140118595550

len grossman s. orange, nj

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:14:39 -0400 From: "David Toppin" <dave@pelletizer.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Thomas Stevens - Correction Message-ID: <00df01c79896$17ff4470$6501a8c0@dtoffice> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="windows-1250" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7

Volume 1 is From San Francisco to Teheran

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Sorry for any confusion I may have caused!

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Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 05:52:29 +1200 From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> To: CR List <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Re Campagnolo SR BB nuts update Message-ID: <C272EF9D.20379%wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <C271F72C.2030F%wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8

Hi all, well not takers so looks like I just need to make a couple of prs for myself. I have had a lot of people ask about them as far as what they are and what is so special about them to hear goes, without a good pic, they are steel NOT Ti, they have a thread that is M10 x 1.0 pitch, so quite fine, they have a step in them for the washer to sit in and are a low profile (thickness). I can send a scan from a Campagnolo catalog, thou its not good at showing the step, but will at least give you some idea what they do look like overall, it 1MB big.......regards wayne davidson Invers NZ..........

on 17/5/07 12:12 PM, Wayne Davidson at wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> Hi all, due to the non availability of said nuts, I'm looking at getting
> some made, If anyone expresses an interest in wanting a pair, then please
> let me know direct, it should work out cheaper getting more made than the 2
> pair I require.
> I cannot provide a price untill I know how may I will be getting made, I'll
> get a quote after I know how many pairs and then get back to you, NO
> obligation required, just an interest in that you may require a pair if I
> proceed.....regards wayne davidson Invers NZ........
>

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:09:56 -0700 From: Robert Schenker <ris@schenkerdesign.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]re: Italvega Message-ID: <C3585D9C-781C-4FD0-AFCA-E8F8BA05C014@schenkerdesign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9

Bob wrote this (I'm posting to save him the trouble) to me:


> SS was the top full Campy $425 as I recall
> Gran Turisimo (or maybe just
> Turisimo) with that der on rear ,Stronglight ,3 tubes Columbus $275?
> Nuevo Record NR
> ders ,Stronglight crank maybe same frame as above price is now lost
> Nuevo Sport ,Valentiino plus
> steel parts $139
>
>
> Best I can do
>
> BOB

I have a friend with one of the mid level models. It came with a Stronglight 49D crankset, Tipo hubs, 3ttt bar and stem (I think), Universal centerpull brakes. It has 3 main tubes butted Columbus tubing. I can't remember the derailleurs. I'll try to remember to post that info if I see the bike soon.

Bob Schenker Oakland, CA USA

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:23:33 EDT From: Philcycles@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]re: Italvega Message-ID: <bed.f9040c5.337df7a5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10

My best friend had a Superlight. A beautiful bike, full NR , pearl white, Columbus SL so it wasn't really superlight, sadly stolen a few years ago. I made

him as close a replica as I could to replace it. Phil Brown San Rafael, Calif.

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:26:04 -0400 From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]FS Black Paramount water bottle cages, new in the package Message-ID: <003b01c798b0$d57a0c00$ff48ff44@ts> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11

I just cleaned out some stash from a bike shop in Oklahoma and got some unsold and in the original packages black water bottle cages with "Paramount" in white on them. A scarce item now days. They are old, but I am not sure just how old...maybe '80s? Just for kicks I weighed one that was out of the package and it weighed in at a cool 39 grams! At any rate, I have a few extra and will ship them for $22 each, Continental U.S. Perfect for your black or chrome Paramount and other colors, too! Help send a geezer to Cirque, Tom Sanders Lansing, Mi USA aka Tom's Bargain Basement

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Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:55:50 -0700 From: "Jerry Prigmore" <robinjer@hotmail.com> To: ris@schenkerdesign.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]re: Italvega Message-ID: <BAY122-F609E64F71B61C8F79A56DCA330@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <OFA7ACEB68.EFA5FC75-ON882572DE.0066602E-882572DE.0067BCD8@dot.ca.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12
>
>From: Robert Schenker <ris(AT)schenkerdesign.com>
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:09:56 -0700
>Subject: [CR]re: Italvega
> <snip>
>
>
>I have a friend with one of the mid level models. It came with a
>Stronglight 49D crankset, Tipo hubs, 3ttt bar and stem (I think),
>Universal centerpull brakes. It has 3 main tubes butted Columbus
>tubing. I can't remember the derailleurs. I'll try to remember to
>post that info if I see the bike soon.
>
>Bob Schenker
>Oakland, CA USA
>
>

Hi, Bob.

You actually have been very helpful in answering questions about my own Italvega, a '70 Nuovo Record that is outfitted exactly as you describe. The stem is 3TTT, the bar is unmarked. The derailleurs and shifters are NR, which I guess is all they needed to justify calling it a Nuovo Record. I have pictures at http://www.geocities.com/Jer64SS/Connie.html

Misc. ramblings: The condition of the bike and the fact that it was bought at an estate sale makes me think the owner just rode it and wasn't into changing stuff, and I think it's all original - none of the parts look like upgrades. (My experience with old cars gives me something of a feel for that kind of thing). I just got some brake hoods (white) and the little black rubber adjuster covers for the Universal brakes on eBay. I've missed out on eBay TA bottle cages so far. I'd like to find more of the weird waffle-textured white plastic handlebar tape but have never seen any. The rear rim has a pretty sharp ding in it and I'm not sure it can be hammered out, so I'll probably be looking for one or two 36H Fiamme Red Labels.

I hope to have it polished up and on one of Chuck Schmidt's rides before too long.

Consider this my contribution to the 2nd (well, 3rd, I guess) tier bike discussion.

Jerry G. Prigmore Clovis, California USA

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