Re: [CR]Cinelli bolts for reproduction

(Example: Production Builders)

From: "ehbusch" <ehbusch@bellsouth.net>
To: "dave martinez" <dmart84815@yahoo.com>, <haxixe@gmail.com>
References: <250597.49069.qm@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli bolts for reproduction
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:37:02 -0400
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cc: CR List <ClassicRendezvous@bikelist.org>

Hello Everyone- I'm a Newbie here. Just want to say hello. My name is Ed Busch and I'm originally from N.J., now residing in Tennessee. Bought my first used Bottecchia in 1974. Got my U.S.C.F. license in 1976, Turned Cat 2 in 1978 and raced cat 2 for the next 10 years including ten trips to The Tour of Summerville, lots of wonderful memories and photos to go with it.
        Along with the memories I have quite a collection of bikes from the early to mid seventies, including a 1975 custom built Jim Redcay(serial # 1445040) which I believe could be one of the top fifty frames Jim Made. Two of the other bikes I have are from about the same year. They are a Roberts Track Bike(serial # 1988) and a Holland built Presto (serial # 2131). If there is anyone out there that can help me identify the years of the Presto and the Roberts, and any other info, It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks- Ed


----- Original Message -----
From: dave martinez
To: haxixe@gmail.com
Cc: CR List
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli bolts for reproduction



> Hello Kurt,
>
> I was told, and its been my experience that some Cinelli owners
> retrofitted the old 10mm bolt/nut/washer binder bolt to newer Cinellis.
> That is Cinellis that used the double allen head binder bolt. Problem was
> not every Cinelli owner tightened down both allen heads equally, so you'd
> get a slipping seatpost or a stripped threads. Cupertino Bike shop had a
> good supply of these guys at one time. All gone now.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Martinez
> Fremont Ca
> US of A
>
> Kurt Sperry <haxixe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's mine:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/haxixe/CinelliSeatBinder
>
> Sorry about the ugly flash pics. FWIW Ken Denny thought the bolt predates
> the frame- probably '70.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA
> USA
>
>
> On 5/18/07, Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
>>
>> I've had a couple of generous offers of original bolts to use a patterns,
>> but now I'm wondering if there were variations in the old style bolts
>> themselves. From memory, as I haven't seen it in over two years, the
>> original bolt that was lost by the restorer had an unusually tall nut,
>> probably at least twice as tall as an ordinary hex nut of the same
>> diameter. That is, there was much more area for wrench purchase than with
>> an ordinary hex nut. Yet some of the photos on the CR site and one photo
>> of
>> one a CR member offered to loan look like pretty ordinary hex nuts, that
>> is
>> it was only the bolt piece that looked "special". Does anyone else have
>> an
>> old non-allen Cinelli or Windsor seatbolt with a tall nut like mine?
>> Maybe
>> this was only a Windsor thing and didn't appear on actual Cinellis. Or
>> maybe my memory is just faulty.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jerry Moos
>> Big Spring, TX