Re: [CR]Frame Geometry and stay length...The angels are dancing on the head of a pin once more...

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 03:14:17 -0400
From: "Eric Goforth" <ewgoforth@earthlink.net>
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]Frame Geometry and stay length...The angels are dancing on the head of a pin once more...
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I've always liked to set my axles all the way forward in the rear dropouts. I can't tell a difference in the handling, but can tell a difference in hard out of the saddle sprinting. Putting the axle all the way forward puts more weight on the rear wheel and noticably reduces the bike's rear wheel's tendency to hop from side to side in hard sprints.

-Eric

Eric Goforth Durham, NC USA

Chuck Schmidt wrote:
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
> | Being able to feel the difference or not feel |
> | the difference in ride or handling doesn't |
> | mean there isn't a difference in ride or handling. |
> | -- Chuck Schmidt |
> +-----------------------------------------------------+
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, CA
>
>
> On May 20, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Kurt Sperry wrote:
>
>> I'd be rather surprised if there's a rider out there who could
>> reliably feel
>> the difference in ride or handling in an inch change in the real wheel
>> adjustment in a blind test.
>>
>> Kurt Sperry
>> Bellingham WA
>> USA
>>
>>
>> On 5/20/07, Tom Sanders <tsan7759142@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I realize that there are some builders and a few real technophiles (to
>>> perhaps coin a word) on the list and to them it may well be important to
>>> know exact and precise stay lengths. For most of us, though, on a
>>> built
>>> up
>>> bike a quick glance at the relative position of the wheel or tire to the
>>> seat tube is probably enough to judge whether the bike meets our
>>> needs or
>>> not.
>>> I realize that with a bare frame this does not work too well. For all
>>> intents and purposes for a collector like myself, though, this one
>>> glance
>>> method works quite well.
>>> On a bare frame I pull out my ever present tape measure and go from the
>>> center of the BB axel to the center of the drop out and this seems to
>>> give
>>> me a nearly instant and consistent result that works quite well for the
>>> decisions that I need to make.
>>> Whether over simplifying or merely eschewing the complex, in the real
>>> world
>>> it works for me.
>>> Tom Sanders
>>> Lansing, Mi USA