Hilary Thanks, that would be great.
All the details I have are as follows; I bought it second hand in 1988. The frame numbers are; 5566T (rear left dropout) 1988641 (BB) Using the Carlton dating the T indicates 1966 Using the Williams chain-set number ZF48 ZF=1965 therefore backing up the 1966 dating. The bike looked identical to the pictured Huffy Corsair (white, flamboyant burgundy and light blue); I did re-spray in my earlier years, before this it had no main decals except for bands at the colour changes, something at the top of the seat tube and another on the top of the front forks. Comparing the specs of this Corsair and parts that were on it when I got it I'm sure it's not exactly the same. I remember the derailleur looked just like the Allvit and the rims were Dunlop special lightweights, I don't know what the rear hub was but unlike the Huffy the front hub was a Milremo small flange and the stem was also Milremo with a hole for the centre pulls, the original drop bars had been replaced and I put some late 60s GB bars on when I got it.
If you'd be interested in selling a Sun catalogue from 66 please let me know, alternatively a copy would be great.
All the best
Julius Naim, London UK
On 27 May 2007, at 12:22, Hilary Stone wrote:
> I do have several Sun catalogues for around this period and can
> take a look at the specs if you have more details...
>
> Hilary Stone, Bristol, England
>
> Julius Naim wrote:
>> Bob
>>
>> Thanks for the useful details on Hurets from this period. Based
>> on your Allvit info on the outer plate I presume the item
>> 320118255748 should also be late 60s and appears to be in good
>> condition;
>> http://ebay.com/
>>
>> I gather that the Allvit doesn't actually perform too well but am
>> sticking to what's listed on the Carlton Huffy Corsair info;
>> http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/
>> I've never identified the model of my Sun but from appearance it
>> was a decal-less Carlton build from the same time with the same
>> livery as the Huffy Corsair (although 5 not 10 speed), with
>> nothing else to go on I'm following this to the letter for the
>> missing components.
>>
>> Cheerio
>>
>> Julius Naim
>> London, UK
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2007, at 23:20, Stronglight49@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Julius,
>>>
>>> This auction would be your late 1960s rear Allvit derailleur:
>>> item # 160119213905
>>>
>>> Huret changed the cosmetics of the outer plate around 1969 or 70
>>> to look more like their others all of which had "HURET" over a
>>> star, against a recessed, textured background.
>>> This auction item is an example of that later (post-1969) cage:
>>> 160119213883
>>>
>>> The very earliest versions of the Allvit derailleur dating to
>>> around 1958 had no protective outer cage plate at all, so it
>>> looked more like the later Huret Luxe or Jubilee rear gears. The
>>> heavy chrome cage plate made the Allvit one of the most durable
>>> derailleurs available. Because it had entirely steel
>>> construction, it was suitable for use even on Juvenile bikes such
>>> as the Schwinn Stingrays or Raleigh Choppers - which would always
>>> be subjected to careless abuse. And even the shorter cage
>>> versions could easily handle 14-28 cogs - while many "racing"
>>> derailleurs of the day struggled with cogs larger than 24 or 26
>>> teeth. The sturdy reliable construction made the Allvit a
>>> reliable workhorse which could be trusted on Touring bikes, as
>>> well. They worked very well, and shifted smoothly... so long as
>>> all the numerous pivots were kept well lubricated.
>>>
>>> The Huret "Luxe" was a prettier version of the Allvit, introduced
>>> around 1967, and without the heavy outer cage plate, it looked
>>> like the very earliest Allvit version. It shifted well, but was
>>> rated for closer range freewheel gearing. I think these were
>>> used for racing, and were really replaced by the all alloy, ultra-
>>> light "Jubilee" by around 1972-73
>>>
>>> The "Super Allvit" (the long cage version) was introduced a bit
>>> later (1973?) and these could handle freewheels of 13 to 34 teeth
>>> and chainrings or 26 to 53 teeth.
>>>
>>> The Huret "Svelto" was a less expensive stripped-down model
>>> without a bulky outer plate and first introduced in 1962.
>>> Unfortunately, the parallelogram was prone to flexing or twisting
>>> which impaired their shifting accuracy.
>>>
>>> Hope this info is of some use to you.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Bob Hanson, Albuquerque, NM, USA