RE: [CR]Intro to another Kiwi, and 1950s Frejus age and model ID

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From: "Mark Battley" <mark.battley@xtra.co.nz>
To: <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [CR]Intro to another Kiwi, and 1950s Frejus age and model ID
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 07:54:44 +1200
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Thanks Joe,

That helps to narrow it down. Shame about the track bike!

Good news on the model too.

Best regards,

Mark Battley Auckland, NZ

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From: joebz@optonline.net [mailto:joebz@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:09 AM To: mark.battley@xtra.co.nz Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Intro to another Kiwi, and 1950s Frejus age and model ID

I would put this at 1957 or 1958 and it is the top model, not the Tour de France. I had a 1958 track bike with serial number 86007 and this is 85741. The track bike is very likely a 1958 because it had all the original equipment including the square cranks with the dust caps, the shorter pedal spindles etc that I suppose were only made in 1958.

By the way, the track bike, #86007 was stolen long ago in Washington Heights, Manhattan. The damn thing was all chrome with the blue panels and they ripped out my front door (great neighborhood at the time) to steal it.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Battley"
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:11:00 -0000
Subject: [CR]Intro to another Kiwi, and 1950s Frejus age and model ID
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


> Hi all,

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Have been lurking here for a week, thought I should finally say

\r?\n> hello. I'm Mark

\r?\n> Battley, from Auckland, New Zealand. I have been here before for

\r?\n> a while around

\r?\n> 2001-2003, and then went into hiding. Last week I purchased a

\r?\n> "project" 1950s

\r?\n> Frejus from David Benson who also lurks here, so thought I would

\r?\n> join up again.

\r?\n> I'm also into Italian cars, so figured I should get a rusty

\r?\n> Italian bike to

\r?\n> match!

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The Frejus can be seen at

\r?\n> http://picasaweb.google.com/MarkABattley/Frejus

\r?\n> As you can see, it needs plenty of TLC, starting with a very good

\r?\n> strip/clean/grease. Paint is chipped but otherwise not too bad.

\r?\n> Chrome is sad.

\r?\n> It does move, at least as far as the end of the driveway and

\r?\n> back again!

\r?\n>

\r?\n> S/N is 85741. According to

\r?\n> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Frejus/Frejus_serial_numbers.htm that

\r?\n> would put it after 1955, which it has to be anyhow since the

\r?\n> head-tube badge

\r?\n> reads: Campione Del Mondo 1930,32,48,51,53,54,55.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Any suggestions as to how to pin the age down better?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I was told that it is a Tour de France, however the bottom

\r?\n> bracket is stamped

\r?\n> MC56. According to

\r?\n> http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/frejus.html the letters

\r?\n> are the model and the number the frame size (i.e. MC 56, MS 60,

\r?\n> TDF58).

\r?\n>

\r?\n> The above reference is not completely explicit though; does MC

\r?\n> mean M Super

\r?\n> Corsa, or something else?