Re: [CR]Campy shifter thingamajig...

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Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ted E. Baer" <wickedsky@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Campy shifter thingamajig...
To: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>, CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <465E4995.3020509@optonline.net>
cc: The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>

Joseph Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> wrote: By the way, I think all three of these manufacturers made a side impact guard available while the relatively more fragile French derailleurs did not.

What about the old French Huret Allvits? Those had beefy guards on them.

http://homepage3.nifty.com/passhunter/hunter/huret/rda4.htm

Ted E. Baer Palo Alto, CA

Joseph Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> wrote: I admire Steven's courage in defending the Campagnolo GT rear dérailleur. I have to say that implying the Suntour and Shimano dérailleurs of the time were fragile, especially the steel ones, is going too far. The Suntour GT and the Shimano Lark were tough cookies. Not only could these dérailleurs withstand a sideways impact as well as well as the Campagnolo, they even were capable of actually shifting a chain over the cogs of a freewheel. If a Campagnolo GT were bent, you could not tell, as the shifting would get no worse.

By the way, I think all three of these manufacturers made a side impact guard available while the relatively more fragile French derailleurs did not. These guards were not common. Also a good mechanic just bent these guys back the right amount and never touched the set screws. If it was adjusted correctly in the first place, bend it back just right and there ya go.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Great Notch, NJ

The Maaslands wrote:
> The shifter seen on Mattie's Jack Taylor tandem is a standard Campagnolo
> Gran Turismo shift lever
>
> http://i8.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/a1/91/0f04_3.JPG
>
> I sold a few NOS shifter/derailleur combos a few years back in their
> original boxes. A friend who used to work at Campagnolo back in the day
> said that they were designed so that it was far less likely that the
> user would accidentally shift the derailleur (especially by women riding
> with skirts). The Gran Turismo derailleur was most commonly used in
> Italy on sporty or city bikes with only a rear derailleur. These bikes
> needed to be dummy-proof, and this is what the combo of protected lever
> and boat anchor Gran Turismo derailleur offered. The GT derailleur may
> not have shifted overly well, but it could be installed, adjusted once
> and it was set for a lifetime of use. You could submit it to heaps of
> abuse that did not detract from its function. Compare this to the
> standard Suntour, Shimano, Simplex and Huret derailleurs that would
> frequently go out of adjustment by a minor fall of the bike, and wear
> out if you rode the bike with the derailleur set between two gears.
>
> Steven Maasland
> Moorestown, NJ
> USA