Re: [CR]info on on E-bay Scarpa anyone?


Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]info on on E-bay Scarpa anyone?
To: devon warner <crabulux@yahoo.com>, Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <295172.99820.qm@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Devon, don't take this the wrong way. My comments, and those of some of the others, did not imply that this was not a nice frameset. In fact, it is quite nice. We were merely saying, or at least I was, that this frame is very nicely made, using a tubeset that has no real "snob appeal". There is nothing at all wrong with Columbus Aelle, and this frame demonstrates that you don't need the most prestigeous or most expensive tubeset to make a quite nice frame.

While not known as an Italophile, I do find it admirable that many Italian builders will put this level of effort into a model with a less expensive tubeset, which one expects would mean that the frame itself was significantly more affodable than than a top model with high zoot tubing. In most of the rest of the world, one too often sees frames that shout "Why bother, it's only Aelle?" I think Italian frames like this represent real value. If one has a limited budget, but still wants a very nice bike, bikes like this are a very good and smart choice. In fact, I have a junior road frame bought for my daughter many years ago made from Aelle by the late Ray Gasorowski, builder of Romic frames. Very nice bike.

I think these bikes remind us that as long as the tubing is of reasonable quality, the skill and care of the framebuilder is much more important than the exact tubing used. That's why, at the other end of the price spectrum, many of the very top frame builders never apply a tubing decal to their frames. Their attitude is that the buyer should trust the builder's skill and judgment and not try to judge the quality of the frame from the tubing decal.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Big Spring, TX

devon warner <crabulux@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ok, this is fascinating, you guys. thanks for the insights. -devon warner humbled and disillusioned in windy San Francisco, USA --- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:
> Another example of what I was discussing yesterday,
> a nicely detailed Italian frame built from an
> unpretensious tubeset. Note that the decal is
> Columbus Aelle, and only Tretubi Aelle at that. Few
> builders outside Italy would put this much effort
> into a frame built with that tubeset.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Big Spring, TX
>
> devon warner wrote:
> Dear Group,
> does anyone have any opinion about the Scarpa Frame
> &
> Fork on E-Bay? does anyone know about this bike?
> Very little is said about it on the auction but it
> looks every bit the interesting item. and why does
> the title have the word "Colnago" in it? sorry if
> this is obvious to you guys, it's not to me.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180126604376&rd=1&rd=1
>
> item #180126604376
>
>
>
> Devon warner
> San Francisco
> 277-2562 (w)
> 596-6064 (c)