[CR]Re: Cinelli bar STAR LOGO?


Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:18:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <20037.11593.qm@web55905.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Subject: [CR]Re: Cinelli bar STAR LOGO?

You could be right, the only pair I can date positively are the original bars on my 1986 Peugeot PZ-10. I have them, or the corresponding Giro model logo, on earlier bikes, but don't know for sure those were original.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> wrote: Because the Star logo bars are easier to find, I've been looking for any excuse to use them on my "period correct" 1980s bikes. Toward that end, I've kept my eyes open for the earliest date-able any photo showing star logo bars in use. The earliest I have seen is from the 1985 or 1986 season. The star logo bars may have been available earlier, and I'd be happy to know that they were, but I don't recall seeing them until the later half of the 80's.

Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA USA

Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net> wrote: It would seem the "Cinelli" on both sides didn't last long then, as I'm pretty sure the Star logo, still no grooves, still 26.4, was already around in the early 80's, probably before the 1983 CR cutoff. If the Star was Champione, then the Giro bars were something different. Anyone know what logo they used on the Giro's offhand?

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> wrote: The star logo on Del Mondos came after the Cinelli-both-sides version. All the distasteful single-groove, double-groove, and 26.0 mm stuff had the star, so it was definitely later.

As has been discussed previously on this list, the classic crest-logo stamping was replaced with the "flying C" logo at the time that Columbus bought Cinelli (c. 1979). The earliest of the "flying C" Del Mondos had "Cinelli" logos on both sides. On one side, below the big Cinelli logo, was writing that read "Champione del Mondo," and below the Cinelli logo on the other side was the model and size (such as 66-42). With the Cinelli-both-sides version, some had the size on the left and the "Champione del Mondo" on the right, and some were opposite. I suspect that this may not have been random, because once the star logo came out, the size was consistently on one side (drive side?). Thus, the Cinelli-both-sides bars that had the size where it consisently appears on the star logo version I take to be newer, and where the size appear on the opposite side, I take that bar to be the earliest of the flying-C bars.

The earliest star logo Del Mondos I recall seeing were around 1985 or 1986.

Tom Dalton Bethlehem, PA USA

is the "intermediate" logo and I think for only one model, the Giro D'Italia perhaps. Other models has different "intermediate" logos. These came between the older classic Cinelli crest and the newer ones with just "Cinelli". I think these intermediate logos were used in the early 80's and perhaps very late 70's.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

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