[CR]RE: Raleigh/NR

From: "Philip W. Moore, Jr." <philip_w_moore_jr@hotmail.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:30:04 -0500
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Subject: [CR]RE: Raleigh/NR

Can anybody tell me what a fair price in on a 8/10 condition Raleigh Pro with Nuovo Record? Be easy on my ladies and gents, I am a newbie here!

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Nancy Burghart, national champion from Jackson Heights (Edward Albert) 2. Re: Don Mitchell Stump #3 (CyclArt Shop) 3. Re: Removing Annodized Finish (Mark Stonich) 4. can anybody date this Bianchi (Arno Volkers) 5. Re: Peugeot PX-10 Seat Post (John Betmanis) 6. Anyone traveling to Paris in the near future? (Paul Roy) 7. KOF? Peugeot (james young) 8. WTB: Cinelli #2/#3 chromed track stem (100-120mm) (sasha eysymontt) 9. Re:Mystery Bianchi (ROBERT FREITAS) 10. RE: Re:Mystery Bianchi (Arno Volkers) 11. Re: KOF? Peugeot (Fred Rednor) 12. Re: Peugeot PX-10 Seat Post (Jerome & Elizabeth Moos) 13. Braze-on removal (Tim Chauran) 14. Fwd: [CR]Braze-on removal (Art Link) 15. FOR SALE: Cuevas 55cm


Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:13:13 -0400 From: "Edward Albert" <Edward.H.Albert@hofstra.edu> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <MSilver@iso.com> Subject: Re: [CR]Nancy Burghart, national champion from Jackson Heights Message-ID: <s694f3ad.063@GW15.hofstra.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1

Since eagle eyed Mr. Silver spotted the material on Nancy Burghart, I replied but left much out. Thinking about it, since I did chime in, it now seems a good time to introduce it. As I mentioned Nancy is going to be inducted into the US Bicycling Hall of Fame at a Dinner being held in New Brunswick, New Jersey in October. Some of you may know that both stalwart list member Joe Bender Zanoni and I are both on the Board of Directors of this organization. I have held off posting info about this insofar as the Hall has been homeless (physically) for some time but will, I hope, have one in the near future. As you all know, our own Ted Ernst was inducted into the Hall last year. Once the Hall is ensconced in permanent digs I am hoping to solicit the considerable knowledge and skill of the list in helping to expand its collection of material related to the history of U.S. bicycle racing. Especially as it relates to club histories and the stories of individual racers. In any case, my purpose now it to invite all of you to attend the October festivities. There will be a famous speaker (whose name I am unsure I am able to annunce quite yet). It would be really wonderful if we could put together a table of CR folks. This is something we should really support even though inductees are not always within our timeline. For example, another of this years inductees will be Dale Stetina who I guess, now that I think about it, raced within the timeframe of the CR list. The date of the dinner is October 20th and I will say more when tickets become available. If anyone is interested in more information please contact me off list. Edward Albert Chappaqua, NY, USA ------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:30:44 -0700 From: "CyclArt Shop" <shop@cyclart.com> To: "C R List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Re: Don Mitchell Stump #3 Message-ID: <DAECJCGMAPNDNDBOEMIKEEOEFLAA.shop@cyclart.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Reply-To: shop@cyclart.com Message: 2

Nice work cleaning up Don Mitchell's Art Stump, David!

For the Curious:

Don Mitchell was a dear sweet man, funny, highly intelligent and articulate. Don was WW2 Marine, then a very successful litigation and appeals attorney. He was also a dedicated cyclist, not just a collector. He was kind, patient and generous as a customer of Confente and CyclArt. We always had the impression that he wanted our best but that supporting our efforts was part of the joy he took from his collecting. Don's collection consisted entirely of purchases he made when the items were new and state of the art. Don would contact manufacturers in advance of trade shows in New York or Los Angeles and arrange for their show bikes to be in his size. He would pick them up at the close of the show. He prepared and displayed bikes with great enthusiasm in our "Concours d'CyclArt" show series that we did from 1984 to 1997. We really miss him.

We still have other things here from Don's collection, including a pristine early Klein Road bike, an anniversary Colnago Master, a Graftek, an early pre-prototype carbon tube bike that was developed by Aldila but never produced, a Follis labeled Teledyne Titan, and an Alan with all the trick lightweight stuff then available including an Art Stump reworked gruppo. He collected lots of engraved, drilled or black anodized stuff, titanium bottom brackets and lightweight freewheels. Some of it is listed in our store.

Jim Cunningham


Vista, CA USA

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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:31:50 -0500 From: Mark Stonich <bikesmith@earthlink.net> To: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> Cc: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]Removing Annodized Finish Message-ID: <E1I8hzG-0003z1-00@pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200707111754.l6BHsxAJ009285@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> References: <200707111754.l6BHsxAJ009285@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3

At 7/11/2007 10:54 AM -0700, Donald Gillies wrote:
>I thought that everything made by "Blackburn" had to be "Black". At
>least it seemed that way to me, as a kid, back in the 1970's. If you
>strip the black anodizing from a blackburn rack, all sense of the bike
>being unmolested or quasi-original would be lost, wouldn't it ??
>Just checking, not criticizing ...

Originally the racks were silver finish. Didn't have the stainless sliders, just an aluminum rod that didn't adjust, which fit over your brake bolt. It was a bitch to get them to fit a lot of bikes. Still have one on my '76 Super Course Mk II.

I remember when the started coming in black and thinking that the finish wouldn't hold up.

Mark Stonich; BikeSmith Design & Fabrication 5349 Elliot Ave S. - Minneapolis. MN 55417 Ph. (612) 824-2372 http://bikesmithdesign.com http://mnhpva.org


Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:43:24 +0000 From: "Arno Volkers" <arnovolkers@hotmail.com> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]can anybody date this Bianchi Message-ID: <BAY121-F32194E76A30615E5043161A7040@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <E1I8hzG-0003z1-00@pop-savannah.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4

Hello Everybody,

can anybody date this Bianchi, the frame number is engraved under the headset and says: L96125 IT came with campy nouvo record from 1974, but the frame is probably older. It has Universal Extra brakes, a variant i've never seen.

this is the link for photo's:



arno volkers Eindhovenlaan 3 5224 VG Den Bosch The Netherlands


Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:56:04 -0400 From: John Betmanis <johnb@oxford.net> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: Re: [CR]Peugeot PX-10 Seat Post Message-ID: <> In-Reply-To: <249DDD9704676C49AE6169AE3D2D9F4E0500E0@Exchange-SVR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5

At 12:31 PM 11/07/2007 -0500, John Hurley wrote:
>Many suggested PX-10 seat post should be 26.4, not 26.2mm. Existing
>post is English-made; no diameter inscribed.

What does it measure?
>while I don't think anyone squeezed the lug, that is still a
>possibility. Perhaps someone could tell from the photo whether the lug
>looks squeezed. Here's a picture of the existing setup:

Hard to say from that angle. Usually you'd see cracked paint. Try measuring the width of the slot in the seat lug at the top and bottom to see if there's a significant difference (more than 0.2 mm because it it will be narrower at the top once the clearance has been taken up).
>I have an SR Laprade post inscribed 26.4, and it doesn't want to go in.

I got rid of of the original low quality seat post and clamp on my Jeunet gaspipe track bike and replaced it with a SR Laprade post which I had to machine down to 26.4 to make it fit. I probably measured the original seatpost to come up with that diameter.

John Betmanis Woodstock, Ontario Canada ------------------------------

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Roy <elroi170@snet.net> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]Anyone traveling to Paris in the near future? Message-ID: <881795.48320.qm@web83309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 6

who would be willing to pick up an on topic bike and ship it to Connecticut? I'm happy to pay all expenses associated with pick up and shipment (excluding air fare of course) and for your time and agrrevation. Thank for any assistance you can give me.


Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:12:53 +0000 From: "james young" <jimbobadahey@hotmail.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]KOF? Peugeot Message-ID: <BAY102-F3162EFFC74AC1F5AD79E34DE040@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7

Hello all,

I realise that the bike I am about to talk about is off topic, but I hope you will consider it to be KOF. In one of my better ebay (250131915384) purchases, I have acquired a Peugeot 753 Chorus road bike, in very good original condition, apart from the transmission which has been replaced with

Dura Ace. I remember lusting after one of these machines in the LBS around the late '80s, if my memory serves me correctly. Can anyone confirm this dating? Also, does anyone know who built them and where? I wondered at the time about Peugeot doing 753 work in house, getting certification from Reynolds or whether the framebuilding was subcontracted out to an other builder? I plan to replace the transmission with a rather nice Mavic SSC unit I have lying around unused at the moment - not original spec, I know, but I think it will look the part nonetheless.

Best Regards,

Jim Young
Edinburgh, Scotland.