[CR]RE: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 57, Issue 3

(Example: Framebuilding)

In-Reply-To: <MONKEYFOODd6apSJmrn0000397f@monkeyfood.nt.phred.org>
From: "nelson miller" <nelsmiller@msn.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:12:22 -0700
Subject: [CR]RE: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 57, Issue 3


Ken---- Lots of nice things for sale! I would dearly love to have the Chater-Lea inch-pitch chainwheel -- considering the price, I assume that it needs refinishing, which is fine. the project is for an early Gillott track bike that I have bought in England, and am waiting till I go over again to bring it back... Also don't know if I can save the finish, or have to do it over again...

Regarding the items you need---- I am in the process of going through 20 years of hunter-gatherer mode stuff, and thinning it out. (no need to worry about my trying to add stuff to my "stash"--- I am just the opposite at the moment. The only problem is that I don't think I will be able to sort through the stuff quick enough to deal with your timetable.

Here is what I suspect that I have..... Headset-- probably--- C-B headbadge-- think so--(I have a Claud on ebay at the moment.. later type) Brown Brooks-- probably -- Seat pin -yes, NOS Birmalux -- BB-- probably, but I have always put in cups and then kept putting axles in until I found one that worked--- would need some help with measuring things... .

I have about 10 framesets that have been redone and are ready to assemble.. I have an apple box for each bike, and I am putting the parts for each bike in the boxes as I dig into the stuff--- Thus, I am going to have to see what I have, what I need, and what I have left over... Yes, there will be a lot left over... 6 of the bikes are British, but several already have the HS and BB installed

Back to your time-line--- which I felt was very fair and well stated--- If you can get the stuff before I get to it, fine.... If someone wants the C-L ring and has something to trade-- fine...

Please let me know if I can help.

Caio---- Nelson Miller-- Seattle

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Subject: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 57, Issue 3

Date: 1 Sep 2007 15:46:10 -0700
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>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. eBay outing.. Eduardo's smarter(?) bro ? (Dave Abraham)
> 2. Phil FW remover (Harvey Sachs)
> 3. Re: Atom FW Remover <was> Phil FW remover
> 4. Re: Campy spindles and drop out spacing (Charles Wahl)
> 5. Re: gipiemme (Charles Wahl)
> 6. Re: Re: vintage spokes? or how anal should we be? (Charles Wahl)
> 7. DeSalvo frames
> 8. Shocking new information (new to me) (Bianca Pratorius)
> 9. Contributions of Mr. Lemond (Bianca Pratorius)
> 10. Re: Shocking new information (new to me) (Chuck Schmidt)
> 11. Re: Contributions of Mr. Lemond (Steven L. Sheffield)
> 12. Re: PinarelloTreviso58cm:Boston CL outing (Kurt Sperry)
> 13. Re: Shocking new information (new to me) (Chuck Schmidt)
> 14. Re: Pinarello Treviso 58cm: Boston CL outing (Chuck Schmidt)
> 15. Re: Contributions of Mr. Lemond (ternst)
> 16. Wish list and lots of stuff for Trade / Sale (Ken Sanford)

From: Dave Abraham <daviabraham@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: Dave Abraham <dave@hokiespokes.com>

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: [CR]eBay outing.. Eduardo's smarter(?) bro ?

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 12:07:51 -0700 (PDT)
>http://ebay.com/<blah>
>temZ270160701701QQihZ017QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt
>em

270160701701

"produced in Florence during 80's by a small prod
>ucer"

for real?

Dave Abraham New Wheel ~ Hokie Spokes http://www.
>hokiespokes.com Beautiful SW Va.

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From: Harvey Sachs <hmsachs@verizon.net>

Reply-To: hsachs@alumni.rice.edu

To: grisha2@juno.com,Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: [CR]Phil FW remover

Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:23:42 -0400
>Steven Johnson asked: <snip>:
>
>Anybody remember the problem the PW Atom tool solved?]
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Removing splined Atom (and related) FW from Phil hubs. The Phil hub
>end cap did to like to be pulled, so Phil created a supeer-thin-wall
>remover.
>
>BTW, using it on other hubs was likely to munch & twist the Phil
>tool right good...
>
>harvey "Yup, I did that" sachs
>mcLean VA
>
>

From: DTSHIFTER@aol.com

To: hmsachs@verizon.net, grisha2@juno.com,classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: [CR]Re: Atom FW Remover <was> Phil FW remover

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:43:58 EDT
>I have an original Atom FW remover - purchased in May of 1971. Works great
>- but one has to remove the axle!! I have done it recently!! Talk about a
>bit of a PITA.......
>
>Cheers (I'm off for a ride on a vintage Motobecane),
>
>Chuck Brooks
>Malta, NY (USA)
>
>
>**************************************
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>

From: Charles Wahl <wahlcf@earthlink.net>

To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: Re: [CR]Campy spindles and drop out spacing

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:30:41 -0400
>And also measure the ends of the spindles. If Phil Wood's specs can
>be believed, the pre-1992 spindles were more like JIS than ISO
>(larger at the spindle end), while those from 1992 onward _are_ ISO.
>That's how Wood provides bottom brackets to fit Campy cranks -- the
>one for pre-1992 is the same as what you'd buy to fit a JIS crank.
>
>Was Sr. Campagnolo jobbing spindles from Sugino or Suntour? ;-) Or
>did the EU cycling establishment lean on Campy to adopt the
>"wimpier" ISO standard at some point?
>
>Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>>Fred Rednor wrote:
>>
>>>>but wouldn't a ca. 1992 spindle have the shield
>>>>logo as opposed to the older globe logo ??
>>>
>>>Good point. I hadn't considered that, but I imagine it's how
>>>they expected you to recognize the difference between the
>>>(otherwise) similarly marked spindles. Thanks...
>>> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>>
>>As with all things, one measurement is worth a thousand words, and
>>when it comes to Campagnolo axles you must measure overall length,
>>left end to shoulder of bearing race, center section between
>>shoulders of bearing races, and right end to shoulder of bearing
>>race. Only then do you know what you have (after you compare it to
>>Campagnolo's axle chart of course).
>>
>>Chuck Schmidt

From: Charles Wahl <wahlcf@earthlink.net>

To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, gianluca <trinita1974@yahoo.it>

Subject: Re: [CR]gipiemme

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:50:51 -0400
>gianluca wrote:
>>hallo,does anybody know this gipiemme "white laser" called group?
>>if you know somthing about it please write to this e-mail address:
>>"muttley.renato@gmail.com".
>
>I noticed a white Gipiemme seatpost on eBay yesterday.
>http://ebay.com/<blah>

From: Charles Wahl <wahlcf@earthlink.net>

To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: Re: [CR]Re: vintage spokes? or how anal should we be?

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:51:14 -0400
>John Betmanis wrote:
>>Spokes are an
>>expendable wear item, like chains, tires, grease or the air in your
>>tires.
>
>Hey, I resemble that remark! I'm looking for a can of late sixties
>air to put in my rotting but period-correct NOS tires. Needs to have
>lead and sulfur from auto emissions and power plants, and smell like
>hashish from the dorm -- that's what keeps the tires from
>deteriorating further.

From: gregebrooks@comcast.net

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: [CR]DeSalvo frames

Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:12:52 +0000
>Today, during a supported Labor Day century I was grinding through on my
>Carlsbad Masi, a younger,and obviously stronger, rider flowed past me on
>a DeSalvo bike. The quick glance I had of the bike looked like a steel frame
>and fork with a sort of retro paneled paint scheme. At the next watering station
>I managed to corner the guy before he took off. His frame was indeed a very
>nicely put together steel f&f assembly he had recently got from DeSalvo Cycles.
>He seemed to really like the ride & fit. The fork was a more traditional affair,
>but the frame was lugless. Not sure whether filet brazed or TIG welded.
>This encounter got my juices going. Apparently Mike DeSalvo does lugged
>frames. Do any list members have any knowledge of, or experience with
>these nice looking frames? Off list answers would be fine.
>Thanks, Greg Brooks, Ridgetop,TN, USA
>

From: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@comcast.net>

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: [CR]Shocking new information (new to me)

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:42:12 -0400
>I recently restored and or built up two new slightly off topic
>bikes. One 1984/85 and one 1988. I brought them to an expert and
>owner of a local shop who loves and collects old bikes. He loved the
>workmanship, the paint job but put me down royally for my cheap -out
>in the area of brake cabling. I thought the brakes felt fine, mostly
>due to my use of Jagwire teflon brake cable and extensive use of
>beeswax to lubricate the cable. I also used a lithium based grease
>to prevent rusting and for good measure. The curmudgeon said that no
>one should be going through so much effort to perfect small details
>and then not use one of the brake wires that have been drawn through
>a die while still hot. He showed me one such wire and indeed it
>really did feel a little smoother. I use the cheap Pyramid stuff
>that all the local bike shops give me when I say I want some brake
>cable. I think I get it for a buck or two. Would hot drawn cable
>really make any difference?
>
>Garth Libre in Miami Fl. USA
>

From: Bianca Pratorius <biankita@comcast.net>

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: [CR]Contributions of Mr. Lemond

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:54:50 -0400
>For those that did not listen to the Lemond Interview on
>competitorradio.com, I would like to simply state that Lemond has
>made quite a few contributions to the sport. Everyone here would
>instantly recognize the value of a first American win in the Tour De
>France or his pioneering businesses such as the cycle company or the
>new venture in indoor trainers (which are also superb for those who
>like this sort of thing), However, how many people know of his
>promotion and deep understanding of the varus wedge which corrects
>for a condition that 92% of all cyclists have? Once one understands
>the situation one can put a wedge under the off topic modern cleat
>or a wedge which accomplishes the same thing under the insole of an
>on topic cycling shoe. Either way one will achieve a more symetrical
>stroke with greater power delivery and faster cadence. For many like
>myself the transformation is not subtle.
>
>Garth Libre in Miami Fl USA
>

From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>

To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR]Shocking new information (new to me)

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:18:50 -0700
>
>On Sep 1, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Bianca Pratorius wrote:
>
>>I recently restored and or built up two new slightly off topic
>>bikes. One 1984/85 and one 1988. I brought them to an expert and
>>owner of a local shop who loves and collects old bikes. He loved
>>the workmanship, the paint job but put me down royally for my cheap
>> -out in the area of brake cabling. I thought the brakes felt
>>fine, mostly due to my use of Jagwire teflon brake cable and
>>extensive use of beeswax to lubricate the cable. I also used a
>>lithium based grease to prevent rusting and for good measure. The
>>curmudgeon said that no one should be going through so much effort
>>to perfect small details and then not use one of the brake wires
>>that have been drawn through a die while still hot. He showed me
>>one such wire and indeed it really did feel a little smoother. I
>>use the cheap Pyramid stuff that all the local bike shops give me
>>when I say I want some brake cable. I think I get it for a buck or
>>two. Would hot drawn cable really make any difference?
>>
>>Garth Libre in Miami Fl. USA
>
>
>Garth wrties, "Would hot drawn cable really make any difference?"
>
>Garth, I think possibly you already answered your own question when
>you wrote, "He showed me one such wire and indeed it really did feel
> a little smoother."
>
>ps If you're using teflon cable why would you use teflon grease
>instead of beeswax?
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, CA USA
>www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
>
>

From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>

To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR]Contributions of Mr. Lemond

Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:28:39 -0600
>On 09/01/2007 03:54 PM, "Bianca Pratorius" <biankita@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > For those that did not listen to the Lemond Interview on
> > competitorradio.com, I would like to simply state that Lemond has made
> > quite a few contributions to the sport. Everyone here would instantly
> > recognize the value of a first American win in the Tour De France or
> > his pioneering businesses such as the cycle company or the new venture
> > in indoor trainers (which are also superb for those who like this sort
> > of thing), However, how many people know of his promotion and deep
> > understanding of the varus wedge which corrects for a condition that
> > 92% of all cyclists have? Once one understands the situation one can
> > put a wedge under the off topic modern cleat or a wedge which
> > accomplishes the same thing under the insole of an on topic cycling
> > shoe. Either way one will achieve a more symetrical stroke with greater
> > power delivery and faster cadence. For many like myself the
> > transformation is not subtle.
>
>
>
>LeMond takes credit for many things that he shouldn't ...
>
>Using tri-bars in a major Tour? 7-Eleven did it first, earlier in the
>season.
>
>Clipless pedals? Bernard Hinault was the one convinced by Look to try them
>first, not LeMond.
>
>And varus wedges for cycling? Steve Hegg (1984 Olympic Gold Medalist) was
>the first big name to start using them, in their "BIG MEAT POWER WEDGE"
>days, long before they became known as the LeMond LeWedge.
>
>But then, LeMond also claims to be a 6-time virtual Tour de France winner,
>since he says that he would have won in 1985 (if he hadn't have been held
>back by his team), 1987 (if he hadn't been shot) and 1988 (if he hadn't
>needed an emergency appendectomy).
>
>SLS
>SL,UT
>
>
>
>

From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>

Reply-To: haxixe@gmail.com

CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Subject: Re: [CR]PinarelloTreviso58cm:Boston CL outing

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:36:21 -0700
>Seems a little odd pantotgraphing an apparent NGS gruppo. At least to me.
>
>Kurt Sperry
>Bellingham WA
>USA
>
>
>On 9/1/07, Larry Fieman <fieman@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/bik/411395374.html
> >
> > Larry Fieman
> > Marblehead, MA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Classicrendezvous mailing list
> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >
>
>

From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>

To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR]Shocking new information (new to me)

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:39:01 -0700
> Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>
>>ps If you're using teflon cable why would you use teflon grease
>>instead of beeswax?
>
>
>
>Was supposed to be "why would you not use". . .
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, CA USA
>
>

From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>

To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR] Pinarello Treviso 58cm: Boston CL outing

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:43:06 -0700
>Pinarello offered lots of different model bikes at lots of different
> price points, hence the pantographed Nuovo Gran Sport economy
>parts.
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, CA
>
>
>Kurt Sperry wrote:
>
>>Seems a little odd pantotgraphing an apparent NGS gruppo. At least
>> to me.
>>
>>Kurt Sperry
>>Bellingham, WA
>>
>>Larry Fieman wrote:
>>>
>>><http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/bik/411395374.html>
>>>
>>>Larry Fieman
>>>Marblehead, MA
>

From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>

To: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>,"Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: Re: [CR]Contributions of Mr. Lemond

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:58 -0700
>I think Paul Swift the american sprinter developed the wedges and
>Lemond Industries / Cycle Co. recently bought the rights several
>years ago.
>We've ben using the Big Meat Wedges since their inception, and his
>basic way/style/system of fitting is as we have been doing it for a
>loooong time.
>Ted Ernst
>Palos Verdes Estates
>CA USA
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven L. Sheffield"
><stevens@veloworks.com>
>To: "Classic Rendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 3:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [CR]Contributions of Mr. Lemond
>
>
>>On 09/01/2007 03:54 PM, "Bianca Pratorius" <biankita@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>For those that did not listen to the Lemond Interview on
>>>competitorradio.com, I would like to simply state that Lemond has
>>>made
>>>quite a few contributions to the sport. Everyone here would
>>>instantly
>>>recognize the value of a first American win in the Tour De France
>>>or
>>>his pioneering businesses such as the cycle company or the new
>>>venture
>>>in indoor trainers (which are also superb for those who like this
>>>sort
>>>of thing), However, how many people know of his promotion and deep
>>>understanding of the varus wedge which corrects for a condition
>>>that
>>>92% of all cyclists have? Once one understands the situation one
>>>can
>>>put a wedge under the off topic modern cleat or a wedge which
>>>accomplishes the same thing under the insole of an on topic
>>>cycling
>>>shoe. Either way one will achieve a more symetrical stroke with
>>>greater
>>>power delivery and faster cadence. For many like myself the
>>>transformation is not subtle.
>>
>>
>>
>>LeMond takes credit for many things that he shouldn't ...
>>
>>Using tri-bars in a major Tour? 7-Eleven did it first, earlier in
>>the
>>season.
>>
>>Clipless pedals? Bernard Hinault was the one convinced by Look to
>>try them
>>first, not LeMond.
>>
>>And varus wedges for cycling? Steve Hegg (1984 Olympic Gold
>>Medalist) was
>>the first big name to start using them, in their "BIG MEAT POWER
>>WEDGE"
>>days, long before they became known as the LeMond LeWedge.
>>
>>But then, LeMond also claims to be a 6-time virtual Tour de France
>>winner,
>>since he says that he would have won in 1985 (if he hadn't have
>>been held
>>back by his team), 1987 (if he hadn't been shot) and 1988 (if he
>>hadn't
>>needed an emergency appendectomy).
>>
>>SLS
>>SL,UT
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Steven L. Sheffield
>>stevens at veloworks dot com
>>bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
>>ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
>>aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash
>>double-you
>>double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Classicrendezvous mailing list
>>Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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>

From: "Ken Sanford" <kanford@comcast.net>

To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

Subject: [CR]Wish list and lots of stuff for Trade / Sale

Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:51:31 -0400
>I have a number of items for trade (preferably) or sale. Trying to
>clean out my stash so that I can concentrate on post-war British only
>(and pay my daughter's tuition!) Items will NOT necessarily go to first
>responder; per reasons below.
>
>
>
>First priority will go to anyone who can offer me something on my wish
>list in trade (or partial trade).
>
>
>
>Second priority will go to those who identify a project for which the
>item is desired. I prefer to assist someone who needs, for example, a
>proper set of pista HB's to complete his 1961 Pog rather than someone
>just adding to their stash.
>
>
>
>Negative priority will go to anyone offering more money than I am
>asking; so please do not tempt me. My pricing is not perfect - and may
>well be too high; esp for the less common. If they don't find a new
>home now, look for them on Ebay soon! Feel free to offer less, although
>priority will go to full price offers.
>
>
>
>I will wait until noon (EDT) Wednesday, 5 September before responding,
>so that digest receiving members get a chance to offer in trade that
>stem or badge I need - before finding out that it has been sold. (I had
>planned to not send this email until Monday, but someone had located the
>items in my Wool Jersey album and had made a cash offer). There is no
>rush to respond as long as it is by early morning on Wednesday!
>
>
>
>My wish list:
>
>
>
>1. Chrome British headset appropriate for 1955 Claude Butler Path Racer.
> Excellent condition or better required. (the Campagnolo one (steel,
>non-pista) just doesn't seem proper)
>
>2. Headbadge for same bike
>
>3. British-made Chrome pista stem, preferably 10-12 cm
>
>4. used (but usable) brown Brooks Swallow saddle; vintage not critical.
>The Brook Champion Sprinter B17 is just too much of an ass hatchet for
>my derriere!!! That will be available for a future trade.
>
>5. mid-fifties (or so) 27.2 mm alloy seatpin
>
>6. Proper BB to make my 1964 Rudge pathfinder work. BB is circa 71 mm
>wide, cottered spindle probably needs to be circa 134 mm overall. I
>want to use a Rudge "hand" chainset (single non-changeable chainring)
>
>7. last but certainly not least!!!!
>
>23 or 23.5 inch very high quality English path racer from 1946-1961.
>Gillott, Hurlow, Carpenter, etc. Frameset or complete bike, original,
>restored, or restorable. Will give it a good home!
>
>
>
>Items for trade/sale
>
>(these items can be viewed on Wool Jersey, more or less in order)
>
>http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/kanford/forsale/
>
>
>
>Prices do not include shipping which will be done at cost - no packing
>or handling charges. Payment by personal check preferred, although I
>will wait until it clears if I don't know you or know of you. Paypal if
>you pick up those charges.
>
>
>
> 1.. BSA wingnuts (set of four; two front and 2 rear) - $85
> 2.. rare gusseted Major Taylor stem(have not seen or heard of another)
>- $300
> 3.. #2 Cinelli badged pista stem (13 cm) with #14 steel pista bars.
>Stem is NOS, bars are unused but have a few tiny nicks (not willing to
>separate them) - $500
> 4.. Cinelli alloy road stem (10 cm), old logo - $50
> 5.. Berthet Lyotard platform pista pedals NOS (std threading) - $55
> 6.. Chrome Titan road stem used (10 cm) - $30
> 7.. #18 Cinelli steel track bars (used); these similar to #14 but with
>circa 1 cm deeper drop and 1 cm more narrow. Identified as Madison bars
>- $160
> 8.. Chater Lea sprint pedal - right one only - $30
> 9.. 1960-1961 Campagnolo Pista crankset; 165 mm with 24 tooth Campy
>inch-pitch chainring and original (I think) chainring bolts - $425
> 10.. Campagnolo 170 mm Strada crankarm; left only. 0 in circle date
>code - $35
> 11.. Campagnolo 170 mm Pista crankarm; 1960-1961 vintage; left only;
>note milled out groove - $35
> 12.. 3TTT record road stem (used) 10.5 cm - $45
> 13.. Ventolux pump. 40 cm in length, circa 38 cm compressed - $25
> 14.. #16 Cinelli steel road bars (new, but with a little surface rust)
>no engraving - $150
> 15.. 25 tooth BSA inch-pitch chainring; 1/8 width; not the usual 3/16
>(perhaps for inch pitch x ¼ inch chain?) - $20
> 16.. 22 tooth CL inch-pitch chainring; 1/8 width; not the usual 3/16
>(perhaps for inch pitch x ¼ inch chain?)- Free
> 17.. 47 tooth patent Campagnolo Neuvo Record road chainring; 144 BCD;
>used - $12
> 18.. 46 tooth brev Campagnolo Super Record road chainring; 144 BCD;
>NOS - $35
> 19.. BSA chainset(fluted on both sides) - rechromed such that the
>logos no longer visible, fitted with twin chainrings (47/50) Chainrings
>possibly Simplex? Standard 5 pin fittings so a single ring could be
>fitted - $140
> 20.. unused 1950's Simplex rear mech - with used front shifter - $65
> 21.. set of 4 chrome wingnuts (2 front, 2 rear), the non-symetric ones
>$15
> 22.. Campagnolo flat skewers; missing the ring thingees $25
> 23.. Cerchio Ghisallo wood rims - lightly used - 36 hole; built once,
>perhaps 100 miles, light glue - $180
> 24.. NOS Super Champion Competition tubular rims (Medaille D'Or); 36
>hole - $75
> 25.. Campagnolo Tipo front road hub - $30
> 26.. NOS Campagnolo Record pista front hub - $95
> 27.. used Campagnolo Record pista hubset (no record) 36 x 36 - $200
> 28.. used Campagnolo Record pista hubset (no record) 32 x 40 - $190
> 29.. the elusive Campagnolo 4-hole fron derailleur; circa 1979 - $50
> 30.. Campagnolo record seat post; 2 bolt model, 27.2 mm, nice shape, a
>little light corrosion only on bottom inch; where it won't show - $65
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>That's all folks!!
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>Ken Sanford
>
>Kensington, MD
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