Re: [CR]Eddy Merckx Molteni frame on german ebay

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From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Eddy Merckx Molteni frame on german ebay
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:36:45 -0700
To: CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Ha, ha, ha... look like the frame even has a top of down tube braze- on for aero-mount down tube shifters!!!

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA USA

On Sep 3, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Jeremy Rauch wrote:
> Looks like a normal, pre-85 Merckx frame -- with a little Photoshop
> trickery on the bottom bracket, you can just make out an E on the
> non-drive
> side. 1985 would be a Z, 86/87 an A, and subsequent pairs of years go
> from there. ( http://www.cadre.org/Merckx/ for more details)
>
> Merckx used that style of bottom bracket through at least 1986/87,
> and the
> seat cluster on most frames through the end of its steel line. The
> flat top
> fork seems to disappear in 1986, though the 10th anniversary frame
> a few
> years later does have one.
>
> I see no reason at all to suspect this frame wasn't built in the
> Merckx factory.
> I do, however, see plenty of reasons to be cautious about where you
> get
> your frame refinished...
>
> Jeremy Rauch
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> On Sep 3, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Roman Stankus wrote:
>
>> Merckx had connections with De Rosa and that frame has a number of
>> typical
>> details and parts typically found on De Rosas from the 80's and
>> maybe into
>> the 90's. The bottom bracket(the milled pattern), seat cluster,
>> and fork
>> crown being some. I have no idea who built the frame. Too bad
>> about the bad
>> paint job!
>>
>> Roman Stankus
>> Atlanta, Ga. USA
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Schmid
>>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:36 AM
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR]Eddy Merckx Molteni frame on german ebay
>>>
>>> Dear Listmember,
>>> Some days ago i ponted out a auction of german ebay for a
>>> Edyy Merckx frame in molteni colours.
>>> Now the seller added this info:
>>> "According to feedback from several collecrors is that frame
>>> type a very special tedition, once custom-built by Ernesto
>>> Colnago for Eddy Merckx, based on a Colnago Super
>>> Model.thanks to the community for this information. "
>>>
>>> See the auction again here http://tinyurl.com/yrluvx or ebay item
>>> No:
>>> 150156626529.
>>> Was there such an Merckx frame built by Colnago?
>>> The seller confirmed upon request that the frame was
>>> powdercoated in the process of restauration. All the details
>>> like braze on front changer plate, top tube brake cable
>>> guides say it is 80ies frame . Does anybody her know more?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael Schmid
>>> Oberammergau
>>> Germany
>>> Tel.: +49 8821 798790
>>> Fax.:+49 8821 798791
>>> mail: schmid@zunterer.com
>>> http://www.zunterer.com