Re: [CR] Pink Ren�� Herse

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Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "devon warner" <crabulux@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Pink Ren�� Herse
To: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <11893000.1189388335137.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


yes, i think that cable treatment is very nice. the whole bike is absolutely a thing of beauty and a joy forever,exactly what i would want to add to my littel group! sadly, i don't have the cash on hand and i would have to join bikaholics anonymous if i were to try and raise the money and buy it right now. devon warner san francisco, CA, USA

--- "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steven,
>
> Ahhh, yes. I was picturing Bob Freitas' bike when I
> waxed poetic about inte
> rnally routed cables. One neat detail that I did
> pick out on the pink bike
> is the braze-on on the right seat stay to hold the
> rear derailleur cable ho
> using. Never seen this treatment before. If it were
> only my size.....
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc St. Martin
> Livermore, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>
> >Sent: Sep 9, 2007 2:09 PM
> >To: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Subject: [CR] Pink René Herse
> >
> >Marc wrote:
> >
> >"I was also of the opinion that only Herse
> randonneuse bikes with all of
>
> >
> >the RH bits were where the value was until I had
> the chance to examine
> >one
> >of the cyclo-sportif/racing frames up close.
> Granted, the machine in
> >question does have some of the Herse bits, but one
> of the details which
> >struck me as being extraordinary was the internal
> routing of the
> >cabling.
> >Granted, internally routed cables are not that
> unique; however, the true
>
> >
> >Herse touch lies wherein each of the entry and exit
> holes for these
> >cables
> >have beautifully filleted reinforcements. Also, it
> appears that to
> >accomplish the internal routing of the front
> derailleur cable, a special
>
> >
> >bottom bracket was fabricated with an eye towards
> aerodynamics. Seems
> >like
> >every time I examine an Herse frame, I see
> something different and
> >extraordinary."
> >
> >Are you perhaps looking at a different bike?
> Looking at the photos that
> >appear here: http://www.reneherse.com/RHpink.html
> The derailleur cables
> >appear to me to be standard under the bottom
> bracket routing. As far as
> >the rear brake cable goes, the person who set this
> bike up has made a
> >mess of it. The amount of cable housing between the
> exit from the top
> >tube to the rear brake caliper is simply too short
> to allow proper
> >functioning of the brake. Hopefully this is simply
> a matter of sliding a
>
> >bit more cable housing from in front of the forward
> cable entry to the
> >rear, but this is not evident. The chain also seems
> to be quite short
> >for the selected chainrings and freewheel cogs. The
> set-up is also
> >lacking in the general proportions, with the
> seatpost unacceptably low,
> >making the whole bike look awkward. I am also
> surprised to see the
> >adustable cup extending quite a few threads beyond
> a visibly thick lock
> >ring. I don't consider any of these elememts
> acceptabe when you are
> >selling a high end bike.
> >
> >Personally, I don't doubt that there will be
> somebody who will pay at
> >least the opening bid, because as Barnum said,
> "there is one born every
> >minute". For me, a collector buying this bike is
> only slightly better
> >off than a Maserati collector buying a Maserati TC:
> a quaint filler to
> >complete the collection.
> >
> >Steven Maasland
> >Moorestown, NJ
> >USA
> >
> >
> >
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