Re: [CR]Mark Dinucci 57 cm bike on eBay...

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:36:11 -0700
From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Mark Dinucci 57 cm bike on eBay...
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <200709290445.l8T4jN1D002764@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
References: <200709290445.l8T4jN1D002764@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>


Don, we touched on this a while back but what do you consider a "used up" steel frameset? Do you think a well cared-for frameset with say 5,000 miles or even 15,000 rides perceptably differently than one with only 50? I've never experienced this first hand.

Kurt Sperry Bellingham WA USA

On 9/28/07, Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
>
> Marcus Helman 'doesn't get it' about this bicycle, a Mark DaNucci built in
> Portland in 1976, full super record, ridden about 100 miles.
>
> Well, I can say, having recently struggled to part up my first full
> super record bike (a 1975), that at $1500 which is the seller's
> reserve, you'd be getting the frameset for free, given the quasi-NOS
> condition of most of the parts. The rear mech, pedals, and BB of this
> bike are worth $600, add in the seatpost and brakes and headset ($400)
> and you'll understand why $1500 is a reasonable price ...
>
> And as for whether the details are 'right' on this bike ... isn't that
> irrelevant if the bike actually 'rides' as claimed? The thing about
> perfect-ride bikes is that in used condition they are invariably ALL
> USED UP. I have had that experience looking for a somewhat classic
> frameset, recommended by Grant Petersen. There are only 2 types of
> frames available : NOS, and worn-out, with nothing in between ...
>
> So if the seller's claims about this bike are correct, and his back
> injury story is true, this may well be the BEST instance of this
> builder's craft in original paint that exists ...
>
> Is there even such a thing as a NOS custom frame ??
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA