Re: [CR]Cinelli question

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:36:42 -0700
From: "Tam Pham" <terminaut@gmail.com>
To: "Classic Rendezvous Bike List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli question
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If there's one thing I'm beginning to suspect, it's that details such as this might no longer be something that those who are alive can remember correctly. :-(

Here's an interesting thread on Usenet by Pete Ruckelhaus that might or might not shed a little light on the differences:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.marketplace/browse_thread/thread/cdec8c2e294e8194/2ed6573313ff7f82?hl=en&lnk=st&q=Cinelli#2ed6573313ff7f82

Tam Pham Huntington Beach, CA - USA

On 10/16/07, Raymond Dobbins <raydobbins2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> My interpretation (read guess) is that somebody in the shop decided to
> redesign/rename the decals, but at some point either they ordered the old
> ones again accidentally, or the printer accidentally filled an order for new
> decals with old ones, and Cinelli found itself using both over time.
>
> It's seems perfectly believable to me that Cinelli wasn't about to throw
> away a perfectly good batch of decals, and so they simply decided not to
> make a big deal about which decal was used. How could they have imagined
> that one day there would be a thing called the Internet, and the CR list,
> where hundreds of people would out them worldwide for their lackadaisical
> attitude toward decal consistency? :)
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
> chasds@mindspring.com wrote:
> body{font-family:
> Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:
> #ffffff;color: black;} the explanation Andrea offered seems to close
> the matter...but it doesn't really clarify the mystery of stickers that are
> completely unlike each other. I don't see how a "printer's error" would
> account for two totally different stickers. That doesn't look like an
> error. That looks like a deliberate decision...
> Ah well.
> c
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Dobbins
> Sent: Oct 16, 2007 1:33 PM
> To: chasds@mindspring.com
> Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli question
>
> There's a site out there that has a reprint of the letter from Andrea
> Cinelli, where he explains and I clearly remember he said there was no
> tubing difference, that the different decals meant nothing.
>
> Hopefully somebody will chime in with the link to that site.
>
> Ray
>
> chasds@mindspring.com wrote:
> body{font-family:
> Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:
> #ffffff;color: black;} yeah, see, I remember some kind of discussion on
> the topic too, but I couldn't find it in the archives. I'll have to look
> again.
> The speciale corsa and super corsa stickers are very different looking, so
> a printing mix-up seems unlikely. I wonder if there was some sort of tubing
> difference..
> c
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Dobbins
> Sent: Oct 16, 2007 1:10 PM
> To: chasds@mindspring.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli question
>
> What I read somewhere (may have been here), is that there was some
> miscommuincation with the printer, and the second batch of decals came back
> Super instead of Speciale Corsa (or vice-versa), and Cinelli decided to just
> use them instead of ordering a new batch.
>
> I believe that Andrea Cinelli explained this in an email or letter to
> someone who is or was on the list.
>
> I'm almost sure this is in the archives.
>
> Ray Dobbins
> Miami FL USA
>
> chasds@mindspring.com wrote:
> No doubt this has been done to death at some point. I checked the
> archives, though, and couldn't quite find the answer to the question, so,
> here goes:
>
> to you Cinelli experts out there--is there any meaningful difference
> between a 70s Cinelli frame with a Speciale Corsa sticker on it, and one
> with a Super Corsa sticker? tubing? weight? Anything?
>
> this is one of those long-time itches.. Finally getting around to
> scratching it.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Charles Andrews

> Los Angeles