Sorry all, my post below (and yes, I forgot to include my link) was intended to go to Brad privately. I'm not including it here, since I think I have already posted it to the List at least three times in the last few months.
You see, all this Colnago minutia talk seems to be making things with my bike more confusing, as opposed to more clear. My green Super has simple milled stem and post, and the big ring has the club shape drilled in, ala the first style, but my flutes and drillings are different from those Brad is referring to when he writes "the first rig". The drilled derailleurs, brake levers, and milled shifters are NOT original, and should NOT be considered when trying to date the bike. The "original" (as I received the bike) cranks and hub locknuts are both dated 1974, which is what I went with originally, but Chuck's and Eric E's timelines seem to put the frameset closer to 1973, so I've already changed the date in the album title and the names of the pics to reflect that. This new series of posts makes things a bit muddier though. This includes Charles' most recent reply to Brad's post.
Ciao, Mark Agree Southfield MI USA ~ ~ ~
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:44:17 EDT From: FujiFish1@aol.com To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR] Regarding Colnago Carving styles
Hey Brad, nice post. According to your list, are my parts the ones from Rig #1? Thanks...
Ciao, Mark Agree Southfield MI ~ ~ ~
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:02:20 -0700 (PDT) From: brad stockwell <brdstockwell@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR] Ray's '72 Colnago, Pantographata time line?
Regarding Colnago Carving styles:
>From my Ebay observations it appears that the first carving rig on
Colnagos
is the combo of the "Merckx-style" drilled big ring with a fluted seatpost
and a "Merckx-style" slotted stem.
The second rig is the "Merckx-style" ring with the panto seatpost and panto stem (like Ray's).
Then the third rig is the "pantographata" group with panto post,stem,ring,and brake levers that are outlined with a fine row of holes around the edge, and have the club above 3 diamonds on the front.
I also have a pair of similar brake levers, perhaps a bit later, that are the same except they have the club-inside-a-"C" instead of a club.
All these rigs appear on post-'playing-card' bikes that have the club+holes or club/no holes crown, and with clubs in all 3 lugs, which suggests that the metamorphosis from rig 1 to rig3 ocurred entirely during the '72 '73 period -- I suppose at the rate at which premium-price bicycle products are dispensed, they must have all been on offer more-or-less simultaneously.
On a side note, it just recently got through my thick sloping forehead that "Super Pantographata" probably just referred to a model "Super" with pantographed components, rather than a bike with stupendous pantographing -- although, hey, they both work.
Brad Stockwell Palo Alto
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