Re: [CR]Ideor Asso (Ideor Ace)

(Example: Framebuilders:Jack Taylor)

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Peter Jourdain" <pjourdain@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ideor Asso (Ideor Ace)
To: "billungardesign@juno.com" <billungardesign@juno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20071023.032526.25624.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

Hi, Bill---

Actually, with the mention of the 1946 track bike...[Here's the link on CR, which I don't believe was on there back when I was searching]:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/images/bike%20shops/cupertino/31.JPG

...you've just added to my very small knowledge base of Ideor, as I did not know their bikes extended back in time to the early post-War period. I think the previously earliest Ideor I'd heard of was a '51.

Back when I was searching the Web I literally followed about 10 major search engines' "Ideor" links for hundreds and hundreds of pages, to the bitter end. Little info was to be had.

As to the Ideor race team... the little I know can be found at the pages below. They exited in 1954 at least, as a Spanish team, and the Spanish rider Salvador Botella Rodrigo rode for them, as this site shows [first rider on the page]:

http://www.cykelsiderne.net/ploegfiche.php?id=3264

Their overall points total as a team may be found here:

http://www.cyclingranking.com/rankings/teams_overall.php?fyear=1869&lyear=1976&page=2

And for a shot of the simply super purple and white Ideor team jersey, you can turn to this LÂ’erocia site---

http://www.eisenschweinkader.org/g1/album67/008_G?full=1

Man, would I love to have one of THOSE!

A limited wool run, anyone????

Cheers,

Peter Jourdain Whitewater, Wisconsin US of A

--- "billungardesign@juno.com" <billungardesign@juno.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter and Chip,I am in the process of restoring
> twin '58 Ideor Asso
> (track and road) bikes - turns out the track bike I
> raced in
> the '70's was a '58 Ideor (year I was born) under
> all
> that paint! The '58 Ideor Asso road bike is being
> restored
> as an Olympic model like yours Peter - with
> Magistroni/
> Simplex Crankset, low flange Campy hubs, Campy Gran
> Sport
> gears, etc. Chuck's catalog from that era is a great
> help.
>
> I'd be interested in learning more about that
> European
> sponsered team Peter, as I'm restoring the road bike
> as
> a Tour de France or Giro di Italia bike from '58.
> Would be more than happy to share pics of the
> already
> restored track model, and upcoming road. Planning on
>
> showing both at next years CR in Pasadena, CA. Will
> check
> out your emails in the CR archives. PS Ted Ernst was
> kind enough to help date my Ideors via the
> frame numbers, and knows abit about them having sold
> them
> at his shop way back. I think they sold out of
> Montrose Bike
> shop as well.PPS Google Ideor Asso and check out the
> '46 track bike from
> the Cupertino Bike Shop site. That gold and metallic
> flake
> magenta paint job is the one I'm using for the
> twins!Cheers,
> Bill Ungar
> Torrance, CAHi, Chip---I was EXACTLY in your shoes
> three or so years ago,when I picked up a 1960 Ideor
> Asso Olimpic as my
> firstback-into-the-vintage-bike-scene cycle. They're
> ashort-lived ('50s-early '60s) marque which
> sponsored aEuropean race team. They produced a range
> of five orso racing bikes (plus city bikes), most
> racers builtwith Columbus tubing. Lower models used
> Mannesmanntubing. Very decent machines.Chuck
> Schmidt at http://www.velo-retro.com/sells a repro
> Ideor catalogue well worth picking up.And DO search
> the CR Archives athttp://search.bikelist.org/Enter
> the term "Ideor" in the CR Archive search engineand
> you'll find my original posts and the MANY
> helpfulresponses I received from the great CR folks.
> I've gota few photos of mine I'll try to dig up for
> you.Happy hunting!Peter JourdainWhitewater,
> Wisconsin US of A
> --- Chip Barker <not2zen@gmail.com> wrote:> I just
> found one of these and am having difficulty>
> collecting information> about it. Has anyone
> compiled the little information> there is about
> this> bike in one place? A bike shop in Montrose,
> CA> apparently imported them from> Italy but the
> owner has retired, it seems. Anyone> been on this
> trail before> me?>
>
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